2025-05-12 Deputation General Committee
Juliane Vogler
Heard at the meeting. Council's recording has this deputation from 0:55; our transcript is below.
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That day at council
General Committee - 12 May 2025 — 12 substantive items, with the agenda, video and documents.
What the minutes record
Deputation Upper Pinbarren Creek Road
Applicant Juliane Vogler
Speakers Juliane Vogler
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Transcript of the recording
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0:55 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: The deputation from Julianne Vogler in regard to the Upper Pinbarran Creek Road. So if I can ask the deputy to come to the lectern and address council. Welcome.
1:06 Juliana Fugler: Good day. Thank you for allowing me that I can talk about this long ongoing issue with Upper Pinbarran Creek Road. And I hope that you can take appropriate action after this. I would like to prefer not to be here, but it is... It is what it is, so I have to go ahead. So my heading is still helping for a positive, sustainable outcome for Upper Pinbarran Creek Road. Upper Pinbarran Creek Road is outside of Pomona with Kin Kin, so turn left, and I live up the hill in the forest. That's why I'm here in Australia, because I love nature and I care, and that's why I'm here.
1:54 Upper Pinbarran Creek Road was established in 19, around 1912, and the property I live on, it's not, not always, I'm a little bit in and out, I'm sometimes overseas, was a banana farm, the first banana farm in Queensland, and they built that road because they needed to get their bananas on the market. So it was a functional road, over 100 years it has functioned quite properly. Of course, we have flats, and this is just normal for this region, and then some boards are overflown, but it's just a matter of a few days.
2:34 So my name is Juliana Fugler, I'm a resident, and I do care. Let me outline a little bit of, sort of a scenario, since when we have been approaching council to appropriately act to save this road. And to make it a functional road. In 2008, it was the start of the tilt of the road on top of the hill, this is where I live, has been changed. A young supervisor said, nowadays we do it differently, I just learned it fresh from university. This road has not been built with a grader, because the first grader came to the Sunshine Coast obviously in 1935. So 20 years after. Then in 2009, there was the Easter flood.
3:32 Staff came and approached the owner of the property, which is not very well, that's why I'm sort of filling in. Asked him for being able to take material out of the driveway to fix a canyon, emergency fix a canyon on the road. He agreed and said, yeah of course. If that's an emergency for tricking the road, go ahead. Just bring it back. Did not happen since then. So that was in 2009.
4:03 2015, some staff came and started to dig a drench between road and driveway. Bernard Yeager approached the police, and the police said this is a council matter. So he approached the council. And Tony Wellington at that time sent Bernard an SMS saying, staff has determined that work in the road is not being undertaken by council.
4:38 So who was that? Question. In 2017, I was here for a few months. In Australia. And when I told me that this is not coming to a resultment. So I said okay, maybe I can try and get in contact with the council. And that was when the first time I got in contact with Frank Wilkie. I rang him and two days later he was up there and had a look.
5:16 Thank you. So we discussed the situation with the driveway. Words like tilt and camber come into play because the tilt has been changed. And when tilts of roads are going to be changed, that means a redirection of water. And every toddler knows water runs downhill. So it has a massive effect, what happens. And I consider graded driver as very highly skilled because they have to tune in. And it's maybe just a few millimeters to make a difference where the water is running towards. So then maintenance was a little bit on and off. And then in 2022, we had this millennium flood. So in that region we had 1.5 meters in about three days.
6:10 And the roads were quite good. But I didn't get the chance to talk to a grade operator. And they agreed. And it was a very highly skilled grade operator. Because the water flow was the right way as it was all 100 years before.
6:30 In October 2022, I approached Frank Wilkie again. He came out again with Joe Teresevich. And I brought this ongoing issue because on and off. So there was still a gully between the driveway and the road. And brought other problems of the road to their attention.
6:58 End of 2023, there were two new bridges built. Millions of dollars. And I think it came out of the budget of catastrophic disaster. You have to tell me how that is called. Something. Money from the state.
7:17 So it was late 23. On the 10th of January 2024, I had a meeting with the manager of maintenance, Alex Nibble. On the road. And pointing out there is a problem with a Ford, which is constantly overflowing. Because the green band is full. And I had a meeting with the manager of maintenance, Alex Nibble. There is a fall entry since 2022, which is like acting like a dam. It redirects the water back to the road. And he agreed in all that. We had a very efficient conversation. And on top of the hill, where the driveway is, he sort of said, we don't have to talk about this. I can see this. It's pretty obvious. Yeah. If you have an eye and the skill for it, you know what's going on.
8:08 Then in March 2024, there was an incident. It came to a court case. For an idea, it was not convicted.
8:20 That court case was, in my opinion, totally unnecessary. But however, it was the case. And then April 24. So that is January. I had a meeting with Alex Nibble. And then April was maintenance due. And I had a meeting with the manager of maintenance. And then on the 23rd and 24th of April, staff has done really good work. Again, like it was. And it worked for 100 years. And we were so happy. So the driveway was not repaired. So this material is still not back. That's what was taken out in 2009.
9:02 But the road, the tilt of the road was back to as it used to be and as it worked. So that's what happened. This is what we want. A functional road.
9:14 23rd, 24. And then there was a day, Papi Kali Day, Anzac Day. And after Anzac Day, on the 26th, they came back and changed the tilt again.
9:32 Redirecting water.
9:36 26th and 29th. And just recently, we got a text message from the council afterward. I'd met someone from Telstar. That in that time, the landline was destroyed.
9:57 So what's going on? Why do they come back when the perfect work was done before? This is what needs to be done. This is what needs to be invested in it. Who is it? Who comes and does the work? Is it the operator? Is that instructed by the council? Is there a supervisor who instructs what workers do? What happens with the quality control after performed maintenance work? This is all the questions I have. Thank you.
10:39 July 24. So a few months after this on and off. Let's call it on and off. First it was gone. It was on. And then it was off again. We had, for almost eight months, stabilization work on the steep slopes of the road. Eight months. Specialist teams. I guess that's millions of dollars.
11:14 And at the end, that was February, March, when the top layers of the road were placed and the drainages, which I don't know who was doing this, a contractor or a maintenance crew. I have no idea. However, the maintenance. It was done. Resulted in severe washouts when we had a little bit more than 300 milliliters in three days on the 26th, 27th, and 28th of March.
11:53 I'm not an engineer and I'm not specialized in roads, whereas I have to tell you I'm learning. When you drive this road up and down and I walk this road and I used to go by bike, by push bike.
12:08 Spending millions of dollars. And then the final bit is not done in a way that it facilitates the water flow. That we don't promote washouts. I don't understand this way of dealing with repairing this road. I do not understand. It has to be the last bit done. I don't understand. It has to be done accordingly. To facilitate water flow. That we don't have washouts. The road used to have no washouts before. So there was a very clever system of tilt, camber, drainage, pipes underneath. Depending. It's a windy, steep bit of the road.
13:00 How do I run with time?
13:02 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: You've got a little over two minutes. Okay.
13:08 Juliana Fugler: So I'm asking you, please take action.
13:14 Because it affects our mental health. In the meantime, my mental health as well. It consumes my life. This is my day off. On Thursday I will be here as well. This is the day I take leave. I would like to go for maybe a beach walk like other people do. So please do not ignore this situation. Please take action. Please stop ongoing erosion. Please look into repair, maintain, and sustain. Noosa has a reserve status. I was very happy when I read the Kabi Kabi commitment. And they invite us to tread lightly on this continent. Yeah. And I ask you to stop this destruction of this old road. And to make it, you know, a new one. And to make it a road functioning as it used to do all 100 years before. And I'm asking you to, on the top of the road, to make sure that it's not separating the driveway from the road. And the big gully is there.
14:28 And I would be happy if, as a resident, we would be welcome to provide feedback. At an early stage. To be part of prevention.
14:42 Sustainable. Maintaining the road as it used to be. Because at the moment it's really going downhill. I hope this is not a dream. I hope it's come true. Thank you.
14:56 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Thank you.
14:57 Juliana Fugler: Thank you.
15:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So we then move on to items in section seven. And the first item is, you know, the road. And the first one is a report referred to the Planning and Environment Committee. It's a further report on MCU 210110. Applications for material transduced, resort complex and utility bar, food and drink outlet, outdoor sports and recreation and club. Minor extensions with distance up hours at 61 Noosa Springs Drive, Noosa, Eds. And we have the manager, the director, and the environment officer. Thank you to the 12 here to brief us and to answer any questions. So Patrick are you doing the overview?
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