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00:00:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So, welcome to the November Planning and Environment Committee. We take this opportunity in NAIDOC week to pay particular attention to the responsibilities we have as the current governing body in this area to respect the great work that the traditional owners of this country did for millennia before there was such thing as a council and to respect the elders past, present and emerging and take that into consideration in all we do. So, we have a slightly late start and for those who will be listening to the recording of this meeting, we have had technical issues and so we were trying to get the live streaming activated but that doesn't appear to be able to be done at this stage. So, we have the first item is attendance and apologies. We note that the full complement of councillors are in attendance. Confirmation of minutes.
00:01:00 This is something we don't normally do but do we have to do it this time? We're setting history. So, this is under the new legislation that minutes must be taken for all committee meetings and therefore it's a requirement to confirm the minutes. There is a suggested manner of approaching this. I see you have a fourth item on your agenda if someone would like to move that. Mayor Stewart: No, I'll move that. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Councillor Stewart, seconder. Councillor Finzel, is there any discussion on this item? I'll take a vote. All those in favour? That was carried unanimously. There is no presentations, no deputations, so we move on to item one which is operational works 180150.01, request to change an existing approval for prescribed title works. Getty at 21 West, Cape Canmen. So, do we have any questions of staff in regard to this matter?
00:02:00 Councillor Wegener: Well, are there very many other jetties that have the docks that float up and down with the tide? Speaker 3: Not that many, Tom, no. You could probably count on one hand. There's a lot of boat lifting devices through Noosa Sound, but not the floating deck to access them. Councillor Wegener: Yeah, and then it also said that the jet ski pontoons there is a relatively new thing as well. Speaker 3: They've been around for a while. There's a lot more of them now, given the increase in the use of jet skis and things like that. There's just a larger number. Councillor Wegener: Yeah. I don't like jet skis all that much, however, I guess it's good for the jet skis. Yeah. Speaker 3: And they're relatively low-key, because they're only yay above the water level.
00:03:00 If you put a jet ski on it, they're fairly low. Yeah. And I suppose there's other outcomes about not needing to have anti-foul boats, because they sit above the water, those sorts of things, but correspondingly, does the boat lifting device degrade environment, and it's six and one half a dozen of the other. Yeah. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So, from a council perspective, our interest is many aesthetics, and in your report, you've said that you feel that this doesn't create an adverse impact, and obviously, not going to interfere with any boating or other service. Is this likely to set a precedent in terms of other applications that may foresee this nature of mooring of boats and jet skis? Speaker 3: Yes, I think it would, but I think also the reasoning behind supporting this one does give us a bit of background if we go into others in the future, and the fact that this one is tucked in behind the jetty head, it's right in the frontage of the property owner, rather than being isolated or out on the jetty head.
00:04:00 Yeah. Councillor Wegener: Now, it seems like it is a good idea if you can get your boats out of the water easily, because scraping and pulling them out of the water, all that work, it ends up in the river. Councillor Lorentson: Okay. Can I ask a question? Councillor Wegener: Yeah, sure. Councillor Lorentson: Just in reference to condition six and condition one, my question is, if the approved comes from one boat lifting device, why is condition six included? I just want an explanation on that. Is it because there's a concern that maybe the boat thing is a boat lifting device? I just need to get my head around that. Speaker 3: I think it's a change in condition six to support a boat lifting device. But the way it's reverted so that we don't end up with an additional one again on the outside of that jetty structure. It's about- Councillor Lorentson: Restricting it to- One. To one. Speaker 3: Yes. Councillor Lorentson: Okay. That makes sense. Yep. Thank you.
00:05:00 Councillor Wegener: One more question. It says that this goes 900 millimetres further into the waterway than the original jetty, but this is in a canal. So is the rules concerning the canals significantly different than the rules with the river, with how far a jetty can go out? Speaker 3: Yeah. Understand that Noosa Sound, admittedly in a canal, physically is part of the river. It's completely different to Noosa Waters in that Noosa Waters is a constrained area. So the state has key lines, distances that will allow you to go beyond your bound into the river. That varies depending on location. So in this one, the state has looked at whether the extra 900 millimetre affects navigable use of the canal, and they've determined at this location that it doesn't. So they're quite comfortable with that. Councillor Wegener: I was just wondering if this is setting up a precedence in terms of another particular case that is on appeal with a jetty going further out than they said it was going to
00:06:00 be made into the Noosa River, but that that won't have any effect on that. No. Speaker 7: No, they're quite different locations, so no. Speaker 3: And quite different uses, I think, as well. Yeah. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Okay. If someone wouldn't wish to move the motion, we'll move Councillor Stewart. Seconded by Councillor Wegener. Any further discussion? All those in favour? That was unanimous. We move on. Well done. Well done. Move on to item two, which is a request to change an existing approval for multiple housing. Type three, retirement and special needs, commercial premises, type two, medical and reconfiguring a lot. One is two, a grass tree court and Ben Lexen Drive sunrise beach. So questions to staff on this one? Mayor Stewart: I've got a few. Is it Patrick? It is. Just on the car parking. Is there... I'm just... Under car parking on page 21...
00:07:00 Car parking should be provided within the sites generally as shown on the drawings. This is 4.1. I'm just confused. Apartment buildings, and it's got basement. So will there be basement car parking? Speaker 4: Associated with the four apartment buildings, which if you have a look at the appendix one, it shows the site layout. It's... I have it in front of me if you'd like to... Okay. Oh, it's the appendix. Yeah. Well, I don't know the page number. Probably page 35 maybe. There we go. 35. Okay. So the buildings in... You might need to... In blue. Which is not subject to this change up, I should say. Yeah. So we're talking about changes to this building.
00:08:00 Yeah. It's not subject to this change up, I should say. There's basement car parking in these buildings. Okay. So it's an undercropped car park for this building. Mayor Stewart: So it's only six beds that's the change. Speaker 4: That's right. An additional six beds to that top building. Mayor Stewart: Yeah. And so with the proposed car parking they need, is it... Existing is 288, proposed is 290, planning scheme 2006 says 179, and then there's a tick that says complies. Yes. So how many car parks will they actually have to have? Speaker 4: Under the planning scheme, for the whole of the development, they're only required to have 179. So they're providing well in excess of the amount that's required. And for this building, it's 26 spaces in accordance with the planning scheme and they're providing 52. Mayor Stewart: Yeah. Right. Okay. Thanks. Bye. Bye. Bye. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Any other questions?
00:09:00 Speaker 6: Yeah. I've got a question. I've been contacted by the... Some members of the public. They're just wanting... They've got concerns about clearing. Is this going to affect any more clearing of the land? Or... Speaker 4: Well, the footprint of the building is changing slightly. And importantly, on this lot, there was a cluster of the glossy black fruit trees which have been... To be protected in the... So the eastern sort of corner of the site, those trees are still being protected as part of this change layout. So the food trees, the extended food trees, glossy black fruit trees, are not changing in terms of those that are being retained. Councillor Lorentson: Okay. Can I ask a question following up on that question? So in regards to protection of the glossy birds' habitat, has Council proposed a plan that has provided specific objectives to the developer? Is there a management plan approved by Council that will minimise the impact of the vegetation
00:10:00 periods and allow them to monitor and at least liaise with the sun-rise glossing tree? Speaker 2: Yeah. There is a management plan that has been approved. It doesn't specifically go into... It does mention community engagement. But it's not specifically... It's not specifically related to which particular parties that they liaise with. There is an eight to one ratio of replanting of glossy black food trees. And they're going to be, you know, throughout the Sunshine Beach area and part of the Nature Refuge and Cooroy Nature Refuge too. But we're asking them to amend their ecological restoration plan to reflect the current staging, because the stage one now only includes the top lot, which is... Yeah. Lot six. So we've asked in their conditions that they amend their ecological restoration plan
00:11:00 to just focus on their current staging that they've applied for. Councillor Lorentson: And is it comprehensive? Do you stipulate that the habitat restoration should consider over-story, under-story and ground-story protections? Yeah. Or is it... Is it in general? Speaker 2: Well, the trees... So the trees retained on site will be fenced off. And so that will be a no-go zone. So that will protect everything from the ground up to the tops of the canopy. So there'll be no threats in that area. Councillor Lorentson: And is there a penalty if they don't adhere with the... Yeah. Speaker 2: The standard penalties under the Planning Act will apply. Fantastic. Yeah. Councillor Lorentson: Is there an opportunity for us with this application to add a final note to the conditions that ask for specific objectives for the developer in context of monitoring and just ensuring
00:12:00 that there is liaison with the glossy group and that what has been promised to be followed actually does happen? Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, we... We... We... We address that through conditions. And we've got... We've also... Our on-ground construction compliance team, we sort of look at that on... When it's in operation with... Yeah. So the usual carrots and sticks exist in the Planning Act to make sure that they comply with their approvals. And when they don't, then we have to take compliance action. We can't anticipate whether they are gone. We expect that they will comply. Yeah. But then there's always that fallback to compliance action. So do... Councillor Lorentson: Do we have baseline numbers at the moment with the gloss impacts? No. So that we know what's existing now and...
00:13:00 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We... We... We... We do... Yeah. We have it in the ecological report. I can send that through to you if you want. Okay. Great. Thank you. Thank you. Is... Mayor Stewart: Is that part kind of vegetation management operational works? Yes. That's it. Is that all... So what they must comply with is all part of that? Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Speaker 7: Yeah. So we have a process when people have to do rehabilitation. They have to do on and off maintenance. So there's a period of time that they have to maintain it and look after it. And council officers actually go out and monitor it and make sure they comply with the approval. And it's not taken off maintenance until it's applied. And we hold... We also hold a performance bond around conditions which they're required to submit to council. And that's not returned until the end of that process. And that helps guarantee and reinforce those requirements that they are carrying out. So I guess to answer Councillor Millie's question, we probably wouldn't be consulting with the group so much. Yeah. Because officers are playing that role. Although I know our officers have a bit to do with that group already.
00:14:00 So we are in touch with that group. Yeah. Councillor Wegener: So that's on page 33, condition 12.2. Speaker 7: Yeah. Councillor Wegener: And that... So that's the one we're looking at right there. Yeah. Minimum five years. Five years. Yeah. Speaker 2: Yeah. And so I've been liaising with Blue Care to have our... We've got a nature refuge, Cooroy Nature Refuge, that Kansan manages. And there's various areas of that that are degraded. So I've been liaising with them to get the material off this site, put it on the degraded side of the Cooroy Nature Refuge, and then have them manage it for five years. And then it's protected in perpetuity because it's a nature refuge. So that's the sort of outcome that I'm trying to achieve. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So when you're talking about material, are you talking about topsoil with all the seeds except to like they do on Stradbroke Island with sandwine in a similar country, that you
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00:15:00 take the topsoil, place it elsewhere, and that generates a similar ecosystem if it's in the right conditions? Yeah. Councillor Wegener: So there's been a lot of work on the glossies and a lot of knowledge sharing in the last couple of weeks here. They're very fussy eaters, as we've heard over and over. What's interesting is that the studies that the Mesa Biosphere Reserve Foundation and so forth are going through their next round, where they're going to bring all the extra glossies. That's one of the things we're going to be talking about, obviously, is what differentiates a tree that the glossies like to eat versus one that they don't like to eat from. It gets to be right next to each other. And that we don't really know. There's a lot of things to learn about the glossies. So maybe this would be an opportunity for you that wanted you to plant the trees. Which ones would they go to? Speaker 2: Yeah. That's why the ratio of eight to one, and they're off the actual feed trees.
00:16:00 So hopefully, out of those eight progeny, one of them will become a feed tree. It's hedging your bets, but it's not perfect. I can't get into the minds of the glossies, and I don't know why they feed on that particular cone and not that one. So yeah. That's good. Speaker 6: I've just got a question. It's recommended that conditions 12 and 14 be amended to require the vegetation management operational works for approval on vegetation. Can you just explain what conditions are sought to be recommended for change out of 12 and 14? Speaker 4: So it's on page 33 of the report. It reflects the changed wording. So you'll see that after 12.37, there was only one sentence there, and we've added actually
00:17:00 in the rest of that text what's involved. Okay. And the condition 12.4 is a new condition. And then in terms of condition 14, it's just added the words and staging. So the vegetation management operational works application must lead to a location, and you say extent of vegetation. Now, we're bringing in that staging element to the condition as well. Speaker 6: Okay. And for those at home listening, can you just give us a little bit more detail on that and staging? How is that going to work? Speaker 4: The current approval, the staging, the initial stage was over both lots, lot six and nine. Correct me if I'm wrong, the operational works approval was allowing the clearing of the site
00:18:00 because that first stage was going to be over both lots. Because it's now constrained, stage one to that northern lot, it's going to be over both lots. And then as the conditions call for, the staging, the vegetation removal and offset management plan to program, sorry, to now reflect the staging going forward. Okay. Speaker 6: So in summarising then, the people that are concerned about the entire block being cleared due to this can rest assured that that won't be the case and the staging will protect? Speaker 4: So the vegetation is going to be removed from that lot. That's correct. Yeah. Speaker 2: So stage one involves clearing 0.8 of a hectare of the site and the rest of the staging is 4.6 hectares. Yeah. So yeah.
00:19:00 So this stage one is only 0.8 hectares, which does contain practically half of the glossy black coo trees. So in stage one, but I'm not saying that this, yeah, that's what's going to happen. So yeah. Councillor Lorentson: Sorry, just a question. Is it unusual that you've got what's considered a vulnerable use, like the Blue Cares approved land use? Is it unusual that this essential service is located in a bushfire prone area? And in the instance of a bushfire, are you satisfied that there's adequate provisions for that? Speaker 2: Yes, we've had it reviewed by various bushfire consultants. When it was approved in 2011, it met the requirements at the time. And subsequent with through the minor changes that have gone on, we've asked them to refine their bushfire management plans and provide emergency access. And yeah, so they've ticked off on all the boxes on those ones. So yeah, so we're satisfied that it's been approved.
00:20:00 It does meet the bushfire requirements and emergency services access. Councillor Lorentson: And has that considered local traffic impact and how to negotiate that in the case of a bushfire? Speaker 2: It would have been, yeah, part of the whole appraisal. Because, yeah, the evacuation would have been considered and emergency access and egress have been considered. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: I've got a couple of questions. My recollection is only recollection. When we considered this matter last, we added a couple of conditions onto the staff recommendation. One about the use of galactic backfeed trees in the street tree planting. And the other one was about requiring investigations into alternative bikeway pedestrian access to the schools, particularly during the construction.
00:21:00 And back then it was about trying to achieve that. At the operational work stage, has this approval lost those or do they still sit somewhere behind the scenes and carry on? Speaker 2: Yeah, they sit in a sort of the downstream approval process to do with the upgrade of the intersection and with the upgrade of the intersection, there'll be traffic management plans that then guide the cyclists and the skilled kids to make sure that there's no conflict with construction traffic and the other upgrading of that intersection. The subsequent downstream approval for the landscaping works will address the planting of costly black fruit trees and other native street trees along that area.
00:22:00 Councillor Wegener: You know, it just occurred to me, stage two, when is stage two, you know, anticipated to begin? And is the success of stage one dependent on stage two by any chance? Speaker 4: The success of stage one, I'm not sure. Councillor Wegener: Yeah, I'll be like, are the two dependent on each other? Speaker 4: Well, the stage one is a residential aged care, you know, high end kind of care. So it's independent of the, but ultimately, the way it will operate is that, you know, potentially you'll have people who are residents of the independent living apartments and units who may move into the residential aged care. They may seek to age. In place and transition through the accommodation that's available on site. But I wouldn't say the success of the aged care is dependent upon on that.
00:23:00 Councillor Wegener: You know, you always worry that you start one and then stage, this happens in other countries a lot where, you know, you give them a master plan and only get halfway through it. Speaker 7: That's really why we're asking them to stage the clearing of the land. We're saying, well, you're doing this first. This must remain. Vegetated because you don't know if they will ever proceed with the final stages. Mayor Stewart: Yeah, because this is obviously for so many older people, we've got schools in such a close proximity. Are there increased cycleways, bikeways, walk paths for the up for the older people to get out and do their exercise? Is that all included in the development? Speaker 2: Yeah, well, there's a two metre wide pathway network along Class Street Court that's been included. And that leads up to. The Ben Lexham Drive upgrade, but and then there's the internal network within the actual southern site of pedestrian and road access. But other than that, there's no there's no additional networks around the area or upgrades around the area.
00:24:00 Apart from the grass street port and the intersection Ben Lexham Drive upgrade. Speaker 7: With planning approvals, we're typically limited to only asking them to do their frontage. We can ask for some connection if it's not far away, but it becomes unreasonable if you're asking them to construct further on. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Following on from that, there will be infrastructure contributions from this development. And historically, in the Sunshine Coast Council era, there was a study done with a look at the desirability of a bikeway walkway between the residential development and the nature reserve. So if council in the future were to say that that is a priority leak, that will be a priority. That would be something that the contributions could be put towards. Speaker 7: If it is considered trunking the structure. Are they planning on Ben Lexham Drive, are they doing an upgrade?
00:25:00 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're upgrading the intersection there. Currently, the northern corner of lot six, which is the bottom lot, sorry, lot nine, needs to be upgraded and that whole intersection there. Speaker 4: There's a road that goes through there at the moment. Which is being removed, and then that will become just the one throat, that intersection, as opposed to what's there currently. Speaker 2: And the removed bus stops being moved, the new pedestrian link to the bus stop has been provided as well. By then? By then, yeah. Speaker 6: Question. We've discussed contribution towards the trunk infrastructure. Is there any conversation around the applicant making contribution towards something like the Burgess Creek Regeneration Program, where they're replanting the feed trees and things like that? Is there any? Speaker 2: It's outside of the scope of this approval process to condition that, but within the ecological restoration plan,
00:26:00 the applicant could propose that and we'd be supportive of that if they wanted to amend their ecological restoration plan to include that as well. Okay. Speaker 6: And how would that process work? Would that be in liaison with you or the community group or? Speaker 2: Well, it'd be as part of a subsequent downstream approval, sort of like a landscaping approval or ecological restoration plan approval. Yeah. And then that's, and then we'd just, yeah, we'd endorse their plan and that plan may have the Burgess Creek Rehab Group involved in it or whatever they're proposing. Yeah. So that is a possibility. Speaker 6: All right. Thank you. Councillor Wegener: Any other questions? Well, I hate to take all you guys' time here, but this is, just tell me, no, Tom, this is not what I've asked.
00:27:00 But obviously, this fits into the planning scheme, because it was approved a long time ago. And just to be, add a big chunk to our population, one or, you know, once the two phases are operational. That's obviously been considered. It's been considered in the 2020 Noosa plan and that addition to population and that increased pressure on sewage treatment and all that. That's all been, I don't, we don't need to talk about that because it's one, it doesn't really matter. But two, because it's not an issue today and it's already been taken care of. Speaker 7: Yeah. So to just respond to that, it is considered in the planning scheme. And Council at the time, back in the day, actually owned the land and chose to rezone it to support an aged care facility on the site because of the high need for aged care in Noosa. We just didn't have the site. So to answer your question, yes, it has been considered in our planning for the area and the Shire and the needs for the Shire.
00:28:00 This application, because it is a change or just with change applications, Council can really only respond. They have a valid approval. We can't take that away. So we can only respond today to the changes they're proposing. So we couldn't revisit that issue anyway. Yeah. If you had any concerns. Councillor Wegener: Okay. Thanks. Yeah. Speaker 6: With regards to making changes to the valid application with the current like social environmental impacts from COVID and essential workers having to move outside the Shire for affordable accommodation. Is there any way we can approach this applicant? To consider moving forward opportunity for accommodation for workers in the health industry? Speaker 7: We can have that discussion with the applicant. But it would be really by their choice because the need in Noosa is really about the high care, not so much the independent living.
00:29:00 Certainly this stage is about building the high care in the first stage, which that's important for us to achieve. And that's great. They're doing it in the first stage. But we could look at the independent living units and have that discussion. But it would just be a discussion as to whether they were willing to make those changes. Speaker 5: Okay. All right. Thank you. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Would someone like to move the recommendation? Moved by Councillor Wegener. Seconded by Councillor Stewart. Would you like to talk about that? Anyone? I would. So we're in a position. We're in a position here where we have a significant conflict of planning objectives. And I've been on record before and I want to go to record again is that in my mind the 2016 decision, if it had come before council, I would not have supported an extension because I don't think the appropriate balance was reached between conservation and the need for aged care.
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00:30:00 That decision has been made and we're stuck with it. I do just want to point out that this is a decision that we've made. This is an ecosystem that occurs for just over 300 hectares and nowhere else in the world other than a small patch on Stratbroke Island and is endangered. So it's a very rare type of ecosystem and that may be one of the factors leading into why the glossy blacks like it. It's proximity to wetlands, et cetera. It could also be that there's a different subspecies there. Research on weed species have found that, for example, Campylaura subspecies can have very different toxicity in their leaves. That some species will be completely fine when landing in water, others will be toxic to the ecosystem. So to me, I just want to place on record that I believe the correct decision is as recommended, but that on a principle is that in the future when we do look at extending development approvals, that we do look at the multiple objectives and whether it is appropriate in a case like
00:31:00 this to reconsider those borders. Councillor Wegener: Can I ask a question? You can ask a quick question, Tom. Are there other projects like this that are not built that we don't know that they're going to be there yet out there? Are there other walkers out there? For example, you know, we've got the Hoffman massive estate over there. You know, people are going to be very surprised when they see that the trees cut down next to the Civic. What else is there? I mean, this is a surprise to me as well. You know, like we're driving past it. Yeah. Speaker 7: Well, planning approvals under the Planning Act have a life of six years. So there are numerous approvals out there that are just sitting, waiting until the owner, I guess, feels that it's right to develop and proceed with development. They can extend those approvals further, and when they are required, when they wish to do that, they have to make an application to Council.
00:32:00 And they're considered based on the planning framework at the time that they apply for the extension, like Hoffman. So there's a lot of approvals out there. Not so much big ones, I'd say. You know, Hoffman's certainly a large-scale one. This one's quite large. Sundale. Sundale, which on McKinnon Drive, that's partly under construction now, where they've been filling. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: The extension of RACV is probably the one most similar in that they're currently in appeal. Speaker 7: That's Lapsman. They withdrew from the appeal. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: They withdrew from the appeal. Okay. Speaker 7: So yeah, there's some out there. Yeah. But I'd have to, I can produce a list from our system if councillors that are interested in going through all the current approvals out there. But it'll include a range of, you know, duplex to houses, units, larger-scale developments. Councillor Wegener: Just interesting words. Like, we've just followed on from what Brian said, you know. Again, as the elected officials, people, you know, are going to be up in arms and saying,
00:33:00 you know, how did this happen? And they're going to look, you know, look at us. And so, of course, we want to know. Mayor Stewart: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Carry on for the question. Just, you see council rezoned this a while, a number of years ago because you saw the need for aged care. Is there the ability or do we have the land that we can look at doing exactly the same thing as rezoning but for affordable housing? Speaker 7: Because we know that there is such a need. Yeah. That is something council could consider doing. Yeah. You know, we'd have to have a talk to our property section, see what land we hold that might be suitable for affordable housing. Yeah. But that's certainly an option for council to consider. Yeah. Mayor Stewart: And if we were to lobby the state or we need to import or something for some of their land, potentially then could we look at the same thing? Potentially if we were granted some land, looking at then rezoning that? Speaker 7: Yes. Yeah. That's right. So we could look at building it ourselves and be the developer or we could go into
00:34:00 partnership with a, you know, a housing provider. Yeah. It'd be definitely options. And that would be a very, well I think quite a valid thing for council to look at because there is such a high need in this stuff right now. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Just to clarify, rezoning, very old fashioned term. Yeah. We don't need to change the zone. We need to do a material change of use and depending what the existing zone is, is whether it's consistent or inconsistent. Speaker 7: Yeah. Council with this one though did go through a process of changing the zoning. Rezoning is old fashioned. You need to do an MCU. I still use it. I have to say, even as a planner I still use it occasionally. Speaker 6: Okay. That's just enough. Thank you. Given the, like the comments you just made to this, are we able to move this forward to the next meeting to wind this out to the other councillors or? Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Happy to. Does everyone think that's a good idea? Mm-hmm. Refer it to General in case other councils wish to make a contribution? Yeah. Okay? Speaker 6: Thank you.
00:35:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So that's a motion by Councillor Finzel due to the significance of the matter. Speaker 6: Mm-hmm. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Moved by Councillor Finzel, a seconder, Councillor Stewart. You don't wish to discuss that anymore, do you? Speaker 6: No, I don't. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: All those in favour? That was carried unanimously. Speaker 6: Thank you. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: We then move on to material change of use 19-0134. Planning and Environment. 19-0134. D67, refusal of an application for a bar at 5 Taylor Court, Cooroy. There is one of my favourite reports dealing with this issue. The agenda? I'm glad you're liking it. I just think these ones should be all confidential. Speaker 7: Oh, yeah. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Brett overrides me, so. Speaker 7: Yeah. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Do we have any questions? Mayor Stewart: I do. I just noticed that the timing had been significantly, there'd been an agreement to reduction in
00:36:00 the hours for the tasting bar. That's correct, isn't it? Speaker 7: That's right. Yeah. Yeah. They've significantly reduced their operating hours to really address and, you know, show council that it's genuine tasting, it's not just going to be a general bar. Mayor Stewart: And also they're only providing their own wines, aren't they, beers? Yeah. Speaker 7: So, their proposal was that for purchase on site, their only liquor sold would be liquor that they're producing. Yeah. So, it really is about supporting the distillery on site. And the courtesy bus that they have to have. Mayor Stewart: Yeah. Yeah. Is that at their own cost? Speaker 7: Yes. And that was their proposal as well. Okay. So, it was addressing the issue that was raised by the refusal in that it was some distance out of town and there wasn't a lot of public, you know, transport. So, they proposed that they would offer a small bus, courtesy bus service to their patrons. Okay. Great.
00:37:00 Thank you. Councillor Wegener: Do you want to go ahead? No. Okay. Obviously, I'm excited about this. I think this is a good decision, which I'm also excited about Tewantin Cooroy. Are you declaring a conflict? No. But thinking of the word spirit and a distillery making a product that they want to display, and it seems, I believe, along with where our industrial zones can be going towards the enterprise style of where we encourage the makers of the products to also be able to market their products and affiliated products from their industrial place. And here we have, we're going to be now allowing them to do that, which is to sample the product, buy their product, sell the product they make right there. It's very entrepreneurial. It's very small business. And in the German lexicon, it's what we call a Mittelstand, which is the business owner
00:38:00 making the product, selling the product, having a very- Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Excuse me, Councillor Wegener. We are in a relaxed community, but have you got a question or are you making a comment? Councillor Wegener: Yeah. My question is, would you agree that in order to, this is great because you look at normal products, you can see, but when it comes to a spirit, you can't really see because it's just clear, especially in the beginning phases. So you're actually testing the spirit in order to look at the product and to analyze whether it's a good product or so forth. Usually when you're buying fruit, you look at the fruit. When you buy a product, you're looking at a spirit. The only way to test it is to drink it. So I'm very happy that we are, that we're letting people actually test the product and feel the product in the only way possible. And then of course having a bar, or not a bar, but a testing area there along with other people, you are testing the spirit in the element of where the spirit will be used,
00:39:00 which is in a social situation. And then the word spirit itself actually is a great word because it means the product, but it also means when you drink it, you feel it and you do feel how the liquid affects your spirit as it goes down. So it's great. I feel it's really important that it's really a step forward towards an enterprise industrial area. Mayor Stewart: Maybe I'll just make a comment. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: In the spirit of this big informal committee, I think that's a question. Speaker 7: Okay, I'll just make a comment that offices were always very supportive of tastings occurring on site. What we were cautious about is about allowing a retail component from the site because we have limited industrial land and industrial uses are very difficult to locate. So I'm pleased we've been able to reach agreement with the applicant and he's scaled back his
00:40:00 proposal to something that we can support and that will support his business and the industrial use that's occurring on the site. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So if I can follow up on that question to me and clarify if this is where the change in staff recommendation comes from. There's been a reduction in the size of the area. There's been a reduction in the hours of the area to a point where you have considered this use is now an ancillary use to the industry rather than a retail use which would standalone operate. Speaker 7: Exactly. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: And that is the difference which you now consider that is sufficiently in compliance with the planning scheme under which it was submitted. Councillor Lorentson: Yeah. Great summary. So adding to that, Kerry, this decision's confirmed, changed, or broadened. Speaker 7: We're saying that it's going to operate in an ancillary capacity. They still need the approval for a bar.
00:41:00 So the application still needed to be made for the bar. But it will really operate as ancillary, not standalone, and be the main attractor for the business. The primary business here is the distillery, the industrial use component. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So in the report, and I think this goes to the acting director, because it has to do with the business model which was enumerated in the report, and in the report it talks about some of the financial reasons during the start-up process that the applicant has put forward for why they needed this retail component. Could you clarify the weight we can be placed on this requirement? I think section 45 and section 60 of the Act are the two areas of importance. Speaker 1: I was actually just going to comment on the economics of this proposal. So I'll be interested by the changes that the team have kind of come up with. I haven't got that section yet, but does the size of model now, is it going to be commercially
00:42:00 viable? Deputy Mayor Stockwell: I'll then go to the development manager. Can we consider in this application whether the model is now financially viable or not under section 45 or section 60 of the Act? Speaker 7: Yeah. The planning legislation specifically prohibits us from considering a person's personal circumstances, including financial. The reason I have included it in the report for reference was I was very interested to see that their primary, you know, their business model is about wholesaling, so that's a reason for it to be. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: So the argument for putting it in was that it was part of the argument to determine it was ancillary? Yes. Yeah. Good thoughts. I just wanted to ask a question. Speaker 1: Can I just add, I think quite seriously, I think that this is something that we're going to be faced with more and more is that diverse revenue streams for businesses to survive. So it's interesting now we've scaled this back to be compliant in all respects and acceptable
00:43:00 within that environment. So I think it'd be really interesting in six months, a year in, how has that model worked for them as a business? Yeah. Because if it works well, that obviously gives us, you know, much more confidence saying, well, that the scale is not the issue, because what it does, it potentially could force the core businesses about distilling and probably exporting and other opportunities. So it'd be interesting to watch how this actually works out on this scale. Councillor Wegener: How are the sales going with the rest of the units around it? Are there any indications of what else will be in the small industrial units surrounding Speaker 7: There's recently I think completed just doing a building format plan so they've created titles for each of the tenancies so I think now that they've created those we might see a little bit of movement people taking them up but I haven't seen any particular inquiries from anyone else yeah but you know the current development approval for industrial uses on the site allows for a range of uses.
00:44:00 Councillor Wegener: It would have been six months ago the landowner communicated to me that he was very confident in the demand yeah for the units he's constructed okay my vision for that area in the hinterland is hopefully facilitating micro farms and so forth and I could I could see I hope to see some of those units being used for the processing of locally produced farm agriculture in whatever you know chutneys and things you can sell all over the place and then really leveraging off the Nisa brand so that's why I can be excited about this because a lot of the food places will have an ancillary part of their business as selling on selling the food that they're creating there you know to the wholesaling to the public or to the public and so forth yeah certainly the size of the tenancies suggest it lends itself to that sort of business just further
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00:45:00 Speaker 1: to that we're we're doing I guess two things one is it an industrial land audit we're updating that over the next probably six months that will include both both I guess and greenfield but also what is the actual tenancy of of these type of facilities and the other side around economic development strategy review and so food hubs especially in hinterland I'm sure will be you know one one consideration what we've done at the digital hub is their equivalent hinterland food hub Deputy Mayor Stockwell: so especially given our land holdings in that area maybe that's that's something that we expand on so I suppose that leads to my question under this plan 2020 this development was designed for medium impact industry which are the ones with more potential for noise smell loud activities things that are consistent with industrial zones
00:46:00 um I don't think it's anything in there at the moment but and this is this item's been I'll have to go to general because I think it's of broader significance is there something we can do whether by condition or notation that identifies the business can only expect an amenity consistent with an industrial state and that the ancillary use will not be considered in determining future uses in the estate um yeah I think that would be a good advisory note rather than a condition because it doesn't require them to do anything I think so but that's that's something we could add yeah I think yeah that's just important it just makes it clear for the future for this business item that's right yeah so if a surfboard manufacturer using fiberglass sits up next door and has those sort of acidic smells coming through we're not going to say stop yeah yeah okay so I'll draw something for general generally so any other questions before we just move that machine to go to okay so I'll move that but the matter we referred to the
00:47:00 general committee due to the significance of the issue seconded by Councillor Wegener all those in favor that's unanimous we then go on to um planning applications decided by delegate authority for September 2020 and can we note that Councillor Lorentson has left the room please and I believe we may have other Mayor Stewart: those who may wish to declare an interest hi Councillor Stewart informed the meeting that I have a declarable conflict of interest in this matter in relation to the application by Belmondo's PTY LTD I have a relationship with one of the owners of the company Jackson Taylor as Jackson and his wife live in my neighborhood and our families have on occasion socialized together however I do not consider them to be close personal friends although I have a declarable conflict of interest I do not believe a reasonable person could have a perception of bias because I don't I do not consider
00:48:00 that I have a close personal relationship with mr. Taylor the decision that council is being asked to make in regard to this application is not to approve or reject it it is to only note the decision that has already been made by council staff therefore I will choose to remain in the meeting room however I will respect the decision of the meeting and whether I can remain dissipate in the decision okay and before we deal with that one I believe there's another declaration as well that's me Councillor Wegener: I councillor Wegener informed the meeting that I have a declarable conflict of interest in this matter in relation to the application by sunshine butterflies as on 23rd of October 2020 I provided them with a donation of surfboard making equipment valued at approximately $1,200 although I have a declarable conflict of interest I do not believe a reasonable person could have a perception of bias because I do not have any other association with that organization and the decision that council is being asked to make in regards to this application is not to approve or reject it it is to only note the decision that has already been made by council staff therefore I choose to remain in the room however I will respect the decision of the meeting on whether I can remain and participate in the decision can I have a clarification in terms of the completeness of your declaration
00:49:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: on the 23rd of October was when you provided the donation is that right yes okay that's one okay so neither councillor Stewart or councillor Wegener can now participate so councillor Finzel and I we rule the kingdom so would you like any questions of either of the councillors who've declared I'm satisfied with the information they've provided I'm happy to move the declaration by councillor Stewart would you like to second that I'll second that would you like to discuss yeah I'm happy for councillor Stewart to remain in the room for the remainder of the conversation I think the declaration is self-evident and what we're considering has no impact I also support it
00:50:00 and it's my closing debate all those in favor carried unanimously and move on to the declaration by councillor Wegener I'm happy to move this one I believe he should that can stay in the room the council note the declarable conflict of interest by councillor Wegener and determined that in it is in the public interest that councillor Wegener participates in votes on this matter because council believes that councillor Wegener does not have a close association with Sunshine Butterflies and given is not required to approve or reject the application only noted a regional person would trust that the final decision is made in the public interest I'm happy with that okay all those in favor carried unanimously
00:51:00 okay so it goes back to the item do we have any questions no anyone would someone like to move the recommendation then move councillor Wegener councillor Stewart is seconded would you like to discuss any of those items no only I think it's good for transparency now that we'll get those every month and people in the public Councillor Wegener: can see what's happening are in their net that passion they're sure I do have a question and this this came up when we were talking about the short-term stays and whether they the decisions whether or whether or not staff decides to permit or grant Airbnb or short-stayed status to a low call that to to to a new residence
00:52:00 you know a low there's 10 times there there's middle medium so the question was there will be application for short-term stay at low density housing will those come through here will they will they be a part of the list in the future yeah yeah there's none here because we didn't decide any that month yeah yeah Speaker 7: but then we'll show yeah and we have had I think about five applications now under the superseded planning scheme for requests to accept short-term accommodation in the low density residential zone some council offices have supported and some we have not for those that we have not we've actually spoken with the applicant explained our reasons and the applicants chosen to withdraw their application so you may not see that
00:53:00 Councillor Wegener: this one's on the agenda but you'll see the ones that we have supported if we do see you see something there like that we have questions about who we actually can have questions about yes yeah and if we had questions and some of us in the majority said we don't approve of this particular one here would that mean that we vote against all of them you know or not noted what would happen if if one of them we we have a problem you know the majority is a problem with Speaker 7: so the decisions been made by offices so you cannot rescind a decision once it's been made so you wouldn't be able to change the outcome there so this report really is about noting those applications that have been decided by offices for that month so if you found you know going forward that you weren't happy with a number of decisions officers were making we could look at the delegations and review those and you ask for those sorts of items to come to council for a decision
00:54:00 okay and then when when this is on the when this comes to us if we want to look at further there's something that I email you and say oh look you know can I look into the material change blah blah blah yeah that would be great if you give me a heads up before the meeting because whilst I am familiar with most of them sometimes I don't have all the you know the detail around them so you can give me a heads up I can bring further detail to the meeting for it to be discussed including putting plans up if you wish yeah so previously offices have only just emailed councillors every month with the list of delegations and I think council Stockwell said it's a good chance for to so the community get to see it further transparency and one thing you can do is you can just like I did just previously on the age capsule you can just put on the public record that you would have thought differently okay yeah okay so
00:55:00 Councillor Wegener: seconded it has any further discussion whoever the mover was would you wish to close this is this is a big change to have these public to put public like this it is a really big change and I think that it will give the opportunity for people obviously they can't change the decision made but give more direction so again it actually is a good democratic step Deputy Mayor Stockwell: forward for bringing the public in on what is happening in the direction of council and making actually probably all of us a bit more responsive to the community all those in favor carried unanimously we then go to item 5 which is the environment sustainable development department update first quarter and we normally just go through this page by page on bottom if you wish to do to raise a question or theory
00:56:00 or make a statement just bring it to my attention I'll just read out the left hand column so COVID-19 business support response tourism Noosa collaboration just a small note as a Councillor Wegener: member of the board of directors for the Noosa Biosphere Reserve Foundation I'd just like to point out that the funding for the Noosa trail program largely came from the delegation from the Noosa Biosphere Reserve Foundation that paid for the report in the beginning so it's just a little bit of you know what up with respect yeah that's that's very true about 80% of the funding came from biosphere wasn't it the biosphere fund yeah and that's I think that's it obviously
00:57:00 people are getting sick of me you know talking about this but we have so many community groups here that we're looking at and look at these pages and pages and um and funding them you know some things do need to be funded and there's very there seems to be just the biosphere reserve foundation and tourism noosa are they seem to be the community groups that are that have some funding or considerable funding for council and I won't say that they seeing how incredibly busy council is and actually I think Amelia and I have been talking about how and Karen how understaffed it appears the council is like we actually you know that the amount of work that goes through the importance of the community groups and and the value we get out of the community groups like tourism select the biosphere reserve foundation the money that you give them seems to really come back as a really solid investment okay social community housing I'll just mention their
00:58:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: it's not in conflict with your report in terms of you saying what's up is continued to progress the important issue I suppose for public exposure we have had a workshop as that was identified there and there was an agreement that staff would prepare a report coming to council probably early in the new year about a policy on council's role and responsibilities and direction in terms of assisting meet what is now I believe a crisis in this community implementation of the Zen organization strategy private land conservation partnerships lamp wildlife on very conservation agreements again looking at it at the next page at the bottom the 16 active working groups 82 working bees 933 volunteer working hours six hundred and fifty five plants in the ground
00:59:00 Councillor Wegener: and nine new volunteers recruited that is you know that's huge amount of effort you know put in by our voluntary organizations and so forth and did one more thing sorry I'm talking so much you guys the keep it in Kin Kin Anthony I had a talk with with some of the others in the environmental levy and group and one of the concepts is to buy land that actually has been degraded like around the keep it in Kin Kin because there's so much demand for planting trees that in the land that we buy that are already
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01:00:00 forested well we're not actually planting trees and take advantage of the planting trees aspect and the rehabilitation aspect of what we're doing we have these tracks in Kin Kin and of course the farmers well they don't want to sell them but you know because it's a big giant rural property because they were talking about the VCAs and the other aspect the third pillar is the changing of zoning or taking the rural block and a lot of going to Deputy Mayor Stockwell: conservation and then give making a part of it a rural residential block and then that program is called split zoning because I think we're talking about where the the land holder it doesn't change the balance zone the land holder can voluntary say this the area that I valued I want to put in an environmental protection zone so I just think that's the cheapest easiest mechanism to get a level of protection over there could be most of it will be the
01:01:00 the the the forested area at the back of their block along the creek or whatever that's just an option that I think it's in there under that's the because that the ball is going to come that's a voluntary conservation yeah but there's a little where Brett was was talking about whether you can actually rezone a chunk of the land rural residential put a house on it you can sell the house off and give the land to that it's you know they're talking about our policy in terms of revolving fund yeah so if council were to buy a block of land which had significance over part of it but we wanted to rebuild that we could buy that block of land we could achieve the outcome that we wanted the conservation and then either keep that or sell the whole block back again with part of it with that protection or that increased conservation value there yeah that's that's a decision of council so one of the blocks that we currently own is an area that's already looked at there and that then the money earned from that could go to buy the next lot into to keep on getting maximum turnover of the
01:02:00 Councillor Wegener: environment that we don't yeah we know Brett brought that up early on as you know something he was really pushing for and the more I drove for you I drive around Kin Kin and you see that the creeks falling in on themselves and that's where really it seems a lot of effort is needed plus that land doesn't seem to be producing all that much from my perspective and maybe you know but by by doing the revolving fund letting somebody have a rural residential piece of land there that they could put a business on and so forth and then the rest of Speaker 1: it let um land care rehabilitate get the get the green dollars in um and and and just going from that I know that that's something that I'm talking to the environmental levy group about yeah I think that that's a strategic review isn't it of the use of the environment environmental levy to purchase land and there's two mechanisms you can use and and but I think it does come into is there any connection there with um you know land rehabilitation protection or even affordable houses
01:03:00 so I think yeah is is there any strategic connection to environmental levy and land purchase rather than the purchase of forest is right yeah yeah and that's I think it's a whole review of the strategy and policy around environmental levy purchase of land yeah but I know it's a it's a it's a topic it's a big it's a big topic yeah the the policy was amended to allow what your proposal occurred um what occurs on the balance slot will depend on the zoning in the balance Deputy Mayor Stockwell: okay so we'll move on I think you were talking both to land private land conservation and community bushland care any others euro ringtail uh pest management noosa river plan I've got a question about the next one okay uh the nature conservation partnership bring back the fish where are we at with state permits do you know
01:04:00 Mayor Stewart: probably need to take a notice with craig just state permits yeah they're supposed to get them by june july and they've been pushed out to the end of december so I know we're in november so it's not far till the end of december so I'm just wondering where we're at but I'll ask that thank you and I'd like to ask the same question in regards to the news of the river plan the nasa river stakeholder group um that's coming that's taking some time and Speaker 1: we're up to the vet yeah it is in the report I know that craig's working with state government on that I'll just go to it is in here um there's another river plan yeah so yeah I guess craig in that last column um report to council summary of feedback in terms of reference for the noosa river stakeholder group and that's on the next steps isn't it we'll just get to the top of the next quarter um bring together stakeholder group in partnership with maritime safety queensland so my understanding is that craig is the time frame is really dependent on the maritime safety queensland group we're trying to align all our activities so that has been a bit of I guess a delay in in that but next quarter which would be new year report to council and summary feedback so that's the status yeah I've had a conversation with craig
01:05:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: asking the same question his view is that if possible to integrate the two the state government consultation group and our group it will help really vet down those issues in the in the river plan that are currently state government responsibilities and that if we can make that so that both parties are satisfied and obviously that's just taking a little bit longer councillors might just bring to your attention that in the report that's going to this afternoon's meeting on the progress of the Speaker 5: operational plan there is actually an update here and kylie's got it up on the screen which might help which will give you some additional information as well so would you like me to read it I think that's basically what we've said yeah and that's it and acknowledge that it's behind schedule yeah however I also talked to craig
01:06:00 Councillor Wegener: about how the oysters are the the oyster reefs the oysters that have been eating in the shells of the oysters and they're piling up and drying out nicely and uh so we will that at least that part is going well where they've got oysters up and drying and uh and then I encouraged him to invite all of us to do our social civic responsibility and eating lots of oysters
01:07:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: well in fact historically in the late 1800s oyster saloons were very popular throughout the world in the peak of the oyster production okay so we move on to bushland reserve management noosa trail network the question is there and it might come up it's probably a craig one but you may know as part of the stimulus package we did advertise for trainees to go into the natural area team is that process finalized or um and are they will they be working in places like the trail I will Speaker 1: check but I I thought I heard that there was a number have been taken on yeah I'm pretty sure but I'd have to uh I'll get through that by now that on the process I think he might have taken on four people but um we'll just double check on that okay um I'm just going to comment about that
01:08:00 Speaker 6: there's been questions back from community um with regards to the funding for the noosa trail and there seems to be some mixed messages around like who's actually got the lead on that like people are coming back thinking that it's noose at biosphere on the trail or the council and confusion over the cycle pathway as opposed to the trail so I'm just wondering how communication is going to be put out to community to clarify how how these trails and walkways and horseways are Speaker 1: going to be um so news of council has received the funding 1.6 million yeah that is sitting with infrastructure under carl as the I guess the project manager and the holder of the funds and then craig um craig eldridge um organizes the pcg or the project group which
01:09:00 is um I guess the key person there is peter mill around the natural areas and so that's kind of there is a structure so it is council it's under infrastructure um between cycleways and the and the trail itself I haven't got an answer on that but certainly council is the project manager of that um I don't know if we're quite sure we obviously haven't put too much media out on it then so maybe it's something that we do and need to just clarify what's in what's out what our focus is for the next Deputy Mayor Stockwell: six months so I think this is I've actually raised it with both infrastructure and either yeah so it's I think our project control group for the walking and cycling strategy I think it's going to be really important to have people understand there's a cycling walking strategy one of the elements of that is implementing the noosa trail um there's a whole lot of other commuter bikeways and walkways that are separate to the noosa trail and there are two different council departments but it's all
01:10:00 part of the one strategy thank you yeah I've noted that too much on media around just clarifying the communication on yeah who's doing what when where yeah yeah okay uh noosa plan 2020 hold of shire climate change response business as usual local economic plan implementation oh thanks for that I'm here I think I'm going to ask Kerry this question I'm an acting director um no I suppose it's I've read it before but I think maybe we should start thinking about normal communications going forward from this point every other policy strategy plan document at the level in the in the policy hierarchy um in environment social etc is
01:11:00 transfer it's all called strategy and it is setting a 20 to 25 year time frame of which then there are subsequent five-year action plans I think in terms we have to think about this is do we start talking about the you know the local economic strategy review process and I also then the question I had um I know that the the covert business round table is morphing into it um when we did develop the local economic recovery plan it wasn't just representatives of business groups and staff members that sat on that group there was also people with um economic or particular skills and expertise uh that may contribute that was involved in the stakeholder reference group and there was also a representative from the community and if you look at our economic sector boards we
01:12:00 always had that sort of mix and so we started thinking about that more generally I totally Speaker 1: agree with the plan versus strategy of policy I think we just need to get that right and what is it that should be part of the review process where does it sit in the hierarchy um so I'll agree with that um the approach around consultation uh we're taking a very staged approach and agree again that the business round table are a one representative group of certain locations more than anything um and then myself have talked about you know there's a sector while the chamber actually do have um portfolios now within the chamber constructions there and retail um there's still a gap on some of the areas so the way you take industry groups for example yeah clean tech and the digital groups that are evolving so so um the business round table is one big representative group who will inform and contribute to the the strategy let's call it um but I fully um expect and started to plan to who else
01:13:00 and who else are um special interest groups you know how do we not just say here's a a a 90 draft here's we we've got to the this this point we think we've got to this point we think we've got to this point we've got to this point we think the big issues are here um you know what's the gaps what's your thoughts so um like I said we've got five network groups coming out of the digital hub now they're all different parts of the tech sector so that's an important group we've also got a founders group out of there the founders group are basically um I guess um um high-end investors or they they they are um you know ones with capital um so they're another group and then you've got sector groups and then you've got the wider community so um yeah we need to do a a more detailed uh consultation plan and that's kind of coming together and um that's a pre-Christmas let's let's see how that will will look um but yeah agree and accept those is it a plan is that strategy a policy let's get that right um and then at what stage do interested parties or general community
01:14:00 get a say and that contribution to the uh to the vision and the outcome there we go anyone else on that one we move on or just Councillor Wegener: just a quick you know um infrastructure investment and re-skilling programs and what just to note agriculture you know it's it it seems that that's the hardest one and Brian's been you know pushing this for his entire life and Karen and I are talking about you know just how much we how much we'd like that he'd like to see uh the micro agriculture here in in noosa but it just seems there's so many barriers for example if we'd be on somebody else in private land and all that and but it just it just seems as though that that's another re-skilling priority area which is very difficult so agriculture and agribusiness Speaker 1: yeah yeah yeah again i think that when we get down to which sectors again um i agree and um potentially uh you know it's at the moment it's potentially that that value add um side of things
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01:15:00 you know the the advanced manufacturing of food and you know the bruiser breweries for example or um bona fide broth i don't know if you know that one down in noosaville they're an interesting one so until i think that there's a lot natural it's a natural asset agribusiness agriculture uh sustainable farming uh regenerative farming etc etc so that whole supply chain value chain has to come out in this strategy and how we address it and engage with it is there a farmer at the roundtable a farmer at the rep well i would say not that i'm aware of so so that would be but who you you've got food kin kin so you've got food supply chain but you don't have a farmer at the round table oh get ready yes she's just well yeah yeah pig's pigs pork wasn't it yeah
01:16:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: not the pigs anymore but you still got yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's going to be Speaker 1: So there's this, I mean, the round table is never going to represent every sector and every, I get that it's vertical. And that's what the gaps that we need to find. But yeah, I suppose that certainly Jodie will bring a bit of the farming knowledge, but we need more of that. We need to dig deeper into some of those sectors and farming and, you know, you know, production rather than value adds. We've probably got, you know, there's the processing side, there's representation and kind of we've got a lot more understanding of that. But the pure production of food is something that still needs to be brought back to the table. And what do we do now? And we've done, we've worked closely with Country Noosa over the last three, four years. We've funded stuff, we've partnered with that organisation. So we certainly haven't been outside of the agribusiness sector. We've worked alongside it. It's just where we go next. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: I think a lot of this stuff, even with Australia, we do get up to the highest level of policy setting is doing look.
01:17:00 Is that prioritising industries or sectors? Or do we prioritise value chains? And identify where in this value chain can we make a significant difference to improve the economic output for the number of jobs? And that, you know, even in tourism, that's, I think, a significant difference in the way we think about tourism. Not that it's the biggest industry and we want to diversify, but is there something we can do as a council in the tourism value chain that will, with a modest amount of investment, have a bigger degree of impact? Okay, Business Support and Development, Industry and Sector Development, Communications and Marketing Plan, Leadership and Strategy Program, Business as Usual Activities, and we move on
01:18:00 to Development Assessment, Local Government Infrastructure Plan for Next Planning Scheme. Do we want to change that title? It should be for a better scheme. Speaker 7: I'm thinking ahead, Brian. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Auditing Program for Advertising Devices, Business as Usual Activities, More Business as Usual, but this time for Building and Plumbing, Plumbing and Building Audit, Educational Programs and Swimming Pool Immersions. Compliance Approvals, Council and Community, Electronic Plumbing Application Project, and that's it. Would someone like to move the recommendation? No. Move, Councillor Stewart. And a seconder, Councillor Finzel. Is there any discussion? No. All those in favour? That's carried unanimously. Now, our next item is listed as a confidential session, but it has been, I've suggested we
01:19:00 review it, but it's a confidential session. If we don't wish to discuss it, then there's no need to go into confidential session. So is there anyone who would like to discuss it? You would? Councillor Wegener: Just a couple of questions. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Okay. So you can't. So we'll need a motion to go and to close the meeting to the public. Have you got the wording there ready for us? Would you like to move that, Councillor Wegener? Yes. So you might want to read it out. Councillor Wegener: Okay. That the meeting be closed to the public pursuant to section 254J3E of the Local Government Regulation 2012, for the purpose of discussing legal advice relating to an appeal in the Planning and Environment Court, so that Council's legal position is protected in relation to item six, Planning and Environment Court Appeal number D144 of 219, the application for building
01:20:00 works at 54 C. View Terrace, Sunshine Beach. I'm happy to second that. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Do you wish to discuss? So will we just... Those in favour? The motion's carried unanimously. Councillor Wegener: Thank you.
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01:46:00 Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Stewart: Thank you. Deputy Mayor Stockwell: Thank you. The motion that the Planning Environment Committee Agenda Item 6 be referred to the General Committee due to the condition of the issue, Councillor Finzel has moved that. I can second it. There's no need for discussion. All those in favour? Carried unanimously and the meeting is closed.