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Services & Organisation Committee Meeting - 7 December 2021 Transcript

Tuesday 07 December 2021 · 1 hour 7 minutes of recording · 1,256 lines · 8 voices, 1 named

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00:00:00 Councillor Jurisevic: And you're ready. And we're live. Good afternoon, everybody, and welcome to the Services and Organisations Committee, the last one for 2021. No apologies, everyone in attendance. Confirmation of minutes before we begin. I must pay our respects to the traditional custodians of the land upon which we meet, the Gubbi Gubbi or Kabi Kabi people, and our respects to their Elders past, present and emerging. I just want everybody's phones to be silent or off, please. And we'll go to item two, confirmation of minutes. Speaker 4: I'll move it. Councillor Jurisevic: I'll second it. Seconded. No discussion? All in favour? Thank you. Carried, unanimously. No presentations and no deputations today that I'm aware of. So we'll move on to item five, reports for consideration. Item one, community events, community projects, grants, round two. Alison. Speaker 7: No problems.

00:01:00 Councillor Jurisevic: Would you like to give us a bit of a summary? Speaker 7: Yep, sure. So the community projects were made up of four categories. So we've got the events, equipment, infrastructure and program category. We have a total budget for two rounds per year for $302,000. This time we're recommending 100... Sorry, the first round we actually recommended $162,000 worth of projects, which only had us remaining at $140,000 left, which we've actually allocated across the board for all the four programs. Councillor Jurisevic: That's really expensive. Speaker 7: Yep. So we've got 21 community project grants that we're actually recommending to this council. Questions? Speaker 1: Was it easy to narrow it down to the winning applications? It's never easy, Frank. Speaker 7: Sorry, councillor. It's never easy to do so. It's never easy to narrow it down to the winning applications. It is a very competitive process to go through. The applications that we are recommending and putting forward are quality applications, and those ones that aren't recommended as such, we'll continue to work with them and

00:02:00 look to access external funding where required or whether it's needed. Speaker 1: And the percentage of compliant applications, are they increasing, or is it always a struggle to make sure we get a good percentage of compliant, worthy applications? Speaker 7: So if you're talking compliant as in good quality applications? Speaker 1: Yes. Speaker 7: I believe so, yes. I believe the quality is going up, yes. Absolutely, yes. Speaker 1: To ongoing projects. To ongoing education and assistance from the community development staff. Speaker 7: Yes. The community development team do a wonderful job in assisting applicants in supporting their grant applications, whether that's actually to council and our council grant program, or to external agencies as well. Speaker 1: And you said the ones that weren't successful this time, there may be other funding opportunities or other funding sources that you are helping. Speaker 7: Absolutely. Speaker 1: And they are successful applicants with. Speaker 7: Yes. And also those who aren't successful as well, we also support them and try to look to external funding sources as well to enhance their project too. Councillor Jurisevic: I'm out. Speaker 7: I'm sorry. Councillor Jurisevic: I'm sorry. Seconded by Councillor Lorentson Flynn. No further discussion?

00:03:00 Speaker 4: I have a question. Alison, in regards to the information sessions, I've attended a couple actually, and they're really well attended. Are you looking at doing maybe more? Speaker 7: We always hold our grants networks in Devils Night, where we do talk about our community grants, essentially council community grants. We also bring in external grant providers as well to talk about what grant opportunities that they have as well. We will only have one of those each year before each round, so we actually have two per year. Yes. And then we also do also the one-on-one support for each grant applicant as well. So that is a criteria for them to apply. They must speak to one of the officers within the team, and we'll support them through the grant process. Councillor Jurisevic: More information than just grants. Speaker 7: More information than just grants. That's right. Great. All right. Councillor Jurisevic: Nothing further? All in favour? Thank you. Item two, Regional Arts Development Zone. Speaker 1: Mr Chairman, I have a declarable conflict of interest. I'm well aware, Councillor.

00:04:00 Speaker 2: Would you like to declare it now? Yes. Speaker 1: One of the proposed grant recipients, Virgo Nash, is the daughter of personal friends of mine, Tanya and Laura Nash. As a result of my conflict of interest, I leave the meeting room while the matter is considered. Councillor Jurisevic: Thank you for your consideration. Thank you. Alison, would you like to give a bit of a summary on this one? Yes. Speaker 7: Just as a way of overview. So RADF is a partnership between the State Government, through Arts Queensland and Nursery Council. The funding period runs from October through September 22. So it's actually not the normal financial year. This time around, we have an external assessment committee, which is chaired by Councillor Karen Finzel. So all the applications are assessed by an external committee, who have got expertise in the arts and cultural sectors. We've received 10 applications this round. We're actually only recommending four applications. Okay. This time, totaling just over $19,000 worth. So the four applications that we are recommending are good quality applications.

00:05:00 I have been working with a council officer to form their application. We did find that there was a number of applications that were submitted that weren't of high quality or that had missing information. And so those applicants will look to do it in the future round or for external funding opportunities. Councillor Jurisevic: So when you refer to high quality, you're referring to the amount of information available relating to the application. You're referring to the criteria of the grant. Speaker 7: Correct. Yes. And we found also with the RADF, we are talking to a lot of our individual artists, our emerging artists as well, that the actual application form that we're actually putting out there is quite difficult to navigate. And we're doing a whole review of that particular process as well. So we're taking all that feedback on board. Councillor Jurisevic: So we're rich in our secrets. Any other questions, councillors? We have no questions. I'm happy to move it. We have a seconder. Councillor Stewart. There's no further discussion. All in favour? Thank you. Carried unanimously. Can you flick Councillor Wilkie back into the room, please?

00:06:00 Speaker 1: Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: Item three. Community program funding. Community projects grants. Round two. For equipment. Community programs funding. Speaker 7: One of those being equipment. Normally with equipment, we would actually try and encourage them to apply for Gambling Community Benefit Fund. This time around, we've had some smaller scale money that we could actually utilise. And we're recommending there's one, two, three, four, five projects moving forward. Councillor Jurisevic: Thank you. Thank you. Was there many more projects applied for under equipment? No. That was the only ones that were applied for. Speaker 7: So we're actually funding all the equipment. Councillor Jurisevic: All the applicants? Yeah. Speaker 7: And the ones that are being put forward are of high value as well.

00:07:00 Councillor Jurisevic: Certainly. Certainly familiar with the radio station, the outriggers, the Malibu Club, the Pickleball Club, and the Coast Council. Any questions, councillors? Can I have a mover? I move. Councillor Lorentson, the seconder. Councillor Wilkie. There's been no further discussion. All in favour? Hearing unanimously. Thank you. Item four. I thought you were saying there'd be any. Speaker 2: Community grant. Councillor Jurisevic: Program funding. Community project grants. Round two. Events. Yep. Speaker 7: So events. So this is, again, through the community project grants. So any events that are of significance go on our signature events. We look to fund them through that particular program, which is a three-year funding. This time around, we've had four applications come through, and we're recommending three of those. Councillor Jurisevic: Rowing Australia will be about the only one we haven't seen much of before. We've seen grants from there before. No. Which one, sorry? Speaker 7: Rowing Australia. Speaker 1: Coastal Rowing. Speaker 7: Rowing Australia. Okay. So this is the first time they've actually come forward. So this is actually Australian championships.

00:08:00 And we're hoping to give great things for them in the future, and hopefully in 2032, maybe something will come. Councillor Jurisevic: Coastal Rowing and Beach Springs. So yeah. Not on the river, but actually out in the water. That's right. A potential . Yes. Speaker 7: Ali, just Noosa Alive, they haven't made an application? No. No. So Noosa Alive actually get funding through the signature advance credit. Oh, okay. Great. Three-year funding. Yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: Okay. Speaker 7: Great. Councillor Jurisevic: No further questions? I'll move it. Thank you, Councillor Wilkie. Second. Second is Councillor Lorentson. All in favour? The ayes have it. We move on to item five, program funding, community project grants, round two, infrastructure. Speaker 7: So again, so infrastructure grant does have the requirement that they must contribute 50% of their own funding or in-kind funding or external funding source. So 50% has to come from somewhere else before council would actually consider funding the other 50%. Councillor Jurisevic: I see here, Ali, there are two projects regarding solar panels.

00:09:00 How have we dealt with those two that were not funded as a result of this grant renewal? Speaker 7: Yep. So we will absolutely be working. So we're very keen on looking at solar in our facilities and we'll be working with those two applicants into the future to work out how we can actually assist them applying for whether it's council funding or external funding. Councillor Jurisevic: So they were all the infrastructure projects that were applications? Yep. Correct. Speaker 7: Yeah. So two of them are successful at this point in time. Speaker 1: So that will be a chief shire house? Speaker 7: It is. Yep. Which is really exciting. Councillor Jurisevic: Happy to move it. Thank you, Councillor Wilkie. Seconded by Councillor Stewart. No further discussion. All in favour? Carried unanimously. We're going to item 6, 80, project grants, round two, programs. Speaker 1: I have a conflict of interest. I've prescribed conflict of interest in this, Madam and Mr Chairman, as I'm the secretary

00:10:00 of the Noosaville National Trust, which is the principal tenant of the Noosa Bicentennial Centre. They're obviously a grant applicant because the result is a conflict of interest. So I'll now leave the meeting room where the matter is discussed. Thank you, Councillor. Speaker 4: All right. Do you want one? Speaker 7: Hi, Noosaville National Trust. Sorry. Speaker 4: Alison, can you explain what the Noosa Ultimate Disc Link in Tewantin is? Alison, we'll get Alison to give us a brief overview first. Speaker 7: Yep. Sure. So just by way of overview, so this is any particular program that doesn't fit in the category of equipment events and infrastructure. We have got five applications come forward for programs. Three of those we're actually recommending and two that we're not recommending. Councillor Jurisevic: Sorry. Speaker 4: Councillor Lorentson, you asked it. Oh, just an explanation or details about the Noosa Ultimate Disc Link in Tewantin. Sorry.

00:11:00 Speaker 7: So the Noosa Ultimate Disc Link in Tewantin is a program that we've got a relationship with the touch club there. So a little bit like touch football, but with a disc as such. So versus the one that we have in Pomona, which is with a basket. Yeah, so something completely different and something that we're excited to have here in Noosa. Councillor Jurisevic: And the two applicants that were unfunded in Helleson, the gymnastic club with window louvers. Speaker 7: Yep. So the gymnastic club with window louvers, they actually leased out one of council's facilities. Councillor Jurisevic: One would think that's a council responsibility rather than a gymnastic touch responsibility. Yep. Speaker 7: So we're looking at that as a council to fund that. And the croquet court? So the croquet court as such, we will be working with them into the future to look at them putting together another application. What they were looking to try and achieve wasn't within this funding period. Okay. So just unsuccessful this time? Unsuccessful this time. That's right. We can actually help them and we can hand through applications so they can be successful next time. Councillor Jurisevic: And I know that the Sunshine Coast, the Sports Federation of the Sunshine Coast,

00:12:00 which I was a former patron, is now rebranded and not associated with the new model. But I believe the new model is quite exciting and quite... Yeah. Speaker 7: Absolutely. Councillor Jurisevic: Quite a change of direction for the... And a new name. Sunshine Coast Sports, is that it? Speaker 7: Sunshine Coast Sports has been now called. Yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: Larry, even you've been approached to... I'm not involved. Not as yet. Okay. Speaker 4: I'll move it. Councillor Jurisevic: Move Council at Lawrenston. I might take on this one if you don't mind. Sure. Just get my name on the paper. Sure. You've got to be fast, Joe. Speaker 7: It's a competition today. Councillor Jurisevic: No, no. I can just batten you down. No, no. I've been open to the discussion. All in favour? Carried unanimously. Could someone get Councillor Wilkie back in the room, please? Speaker 7: And just while Kim is walking out of the room, I just want to acknowledge all the work that Kim's done in the branch space, as we have asked Council to do. Thank you, Kim. Councillor Jurisevic: You got one ahead of me. I was waiting for him to come back in the room. Thank you, Kim. Yes, this is my understanding. It's our last time that we'll see you at the branch rounds and in front of Councillors,

00:13:00 Kim. Thank you for all your work over the years. I've known you for a long, long time on Council and for all your work that you've done with our community organisations, helping their grant applications over the years. It's been a pleasure working with you and... Thank you. Speaker 7: It's been very nice. I've had very great pleasure to do this job. It's one of the best jobs in the world. Most ethical, and I get to deal with all the beautiful people at the Shire. Councillor Jurisevic: I hope you have as much fun with the next course of your life. It's going to be different. Thanks, Alice. Thanks again. Thank you, Kim. Thanks, Alice. Speaker 7: Ho, ho, ho. Speaker 2: I should stop going. Councillor Jurisevic: Thank you. Sunshine Beach Escape Park Arts Flight Renewal Tender Awards. James and Craig, welcome. Speaker 2: For the summary? Yeah. Okay. So we've been coming up with a few of these reports, which is good. That means we're getting into some international competition.

00:14:00 And so as part of this project, it's looking at those upgrades. This tender report provides an evaluation and recommendation for the third contract of the project. We went out to the market for a couple of years. We received three prizes and we recommend Revolution Action Sports Concepts because it shows our dedication to Council and provides the best day of the month. Councillor Jurisevic: As far as where these three organisations are from, I wouldn't imagine we've got a specialist skateboard manufacturer here in Noosa. Are they coast-located? Speaker 5: Yeah, two of them are actually Sunshine Coast, but obviously they're a bit smaller than the one that actually was there at the beginning of the day. Councillor Jurisevic: Okay, we've gone with one located in New South Wales. Speaker 4: I probably want to just thank Council on behalf of the Skateboarding Association which is not properly formed, but it is formed and we've got some really big plays in this area that live in amongst us.

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00:15:00 And we talked about rowing as a sport that we're identifying as a potential Olympic event. Skateboarding, whether it's for the purpose of facilitating these high-end events, potential skateboarding and recreation hub down the track, I think it's possibly one of the most exciting Olympic events to watch. And their input. Of course, I want to also thank Amanda Tai and James yourself for really genuinely collaborating with this group. They have just spoken very highly of the association and you've taken on board lots of what they asked. Thank you. I have another question. In regards to surplus, if there is any surplus, can we use that funding to upgrade the existing seating area?

00:16:00 Speaker 2: I suppose that's making a prediction into the future, in the account of the future at this stage. But as we go through progress and we release risk, then there may be opportunities in the future to assess that risk. Do you find that okay? Speaker 4: No, because my question was in regards to, so we've allocated funds for this project. If there's anything left over, can those funds be used? For the skate parking, but not for the shades, is my question. Speaker 3: Do you want to say anything on that? I'm happy to jump in, Councillor, if that's all. Yes, please. Any surplus funds for these types of projects, this project, all the money is allocated to the vert ramp. She's known the term by now, I've read it a number of times. For the vert ramp, so once they've built any surpluses, like all of our projects, it goes back into our bucket to help us to make sure that we deliver all of our other projects within our budgets.

00:17:00 And then if there's any left over, then there's opportunity to pick the hand up for priority projects or special projects. That's the way it's set up at this point in time. Councillor Jurisevic: My understanding is that all of the rest of the skate park, this is just the last remaining component of the skate park that wasn't revitalised with the major concrete works that were done. Speaker 3: In terms of the usage, but yeah, seating and things like that are separate things. Councillor Jurisevic: Just to clarify something that Amelia was asking, we've done the skate park, we've done the half pipe, we've done the shade. Have we not done the seating and all that as part of the upgrade of the facility? Speaker 2: I thought we had done the seating. I'm not sure. We did a condition assessment done, and I'm not sure the condition of the seating. The skate pole needed renewal, and we've done that.

00:18:00 And the ramp needed renewal, and we've done that. I assume that the condition assessment was done before the seating. I think there was something around the time of the shade structure, but the seating and Councillor Jurisevic: shade structure went hand in hand. There's seating there. Speaker 5: It's more so just additional seating. Councillor Jurisevic: Anyway, okay. Fair enough. All right. Nothing further, councillors? Another mover? Councillor Stewart? Seconder? Councillor Wilkie? No further discussion? All in favour? Carried unanimously. Thank you, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Good to see so much work going, getting undertaken. Item eight, the Noosa Library Service. Annual report to 30th of June. Welcome, Tracey. Speaker 7: So you might recall our departmental quarterly update reports where we had a snapshot of activities across each department.

00:19:00 We found each quarter was very short, bullet point, a lot of information but not a lot of context. And so we proposed a change to that to be able to provide councillors with much more in-depth information and data and some context and background around that. The aim being that that provides both councillors and the community with a much better understanding of particularly some of the services that wouldn't normally come before a council. So this is the first report as such, so libraries have prepared the first report. As you can see it's quite lengthy and what we would be proposing to do out the other side is then conduct a bit of a debrief with councillors around what bits you felt were valuable, what you didn't find so useful, what changes you would like.

00:20:00 So there's kind of I guess two things before you today. There's the report itself to consider with the information that's in it and then at a later date we talk about the format of this report as well. Councillor Jurisevic: Happy small and stark faces in the background. Speaker 6: So I'll give you a little update on the report. I hope you enjoyed reading it because I thoroughly enjoyed writing it. It's been a very challenging year and writing the report really highlighted the diversity of services that libraries offer and the value they provide to our community. Councillor Jurisevic: It's been very thorough and more comprehensive than we've had in the past. Speaker 6: So the report gives you an update on activities of the Noosa Library Service and it includes a range of services that our libraries offer, the state of the services that the current ones stand. Councillor Jurisevic: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Who's ready for the Christmas cruise? Is Alison gone already?

00:21:00 She's a good little one isn't she? Merry Christmas. Speaker 7: Merry Christmas. Speaker 4: Thanks, Santa. Thanks, Santa. I'm in shock. He's early. Yeah, hello. He's early. Councillor Jurisevic: He's early. Speaker 6: So the report provides an update on the activities of the Noosa Library Service. It includes services that the library offers, the state of the services that currently stands and highlights some key projects and initiatives for the upcoming year. So the report provides an update on the activities of the Noosa Library Service. Speaker 7: That's fantastic, Tracey, thank you. I just have one question and it was just to do with the Adult Literacy Program which is one of the less visible but most valuable services. Just any thoughts, and you may already do this, about getting volunteers, ex-teachers, in our community who have got blue cards to come in. My mum's an ex-teacher and she.

00:22:00 And I just know something like this. And I'm sure, Frank, your mum was a teacher when she. I'm sure there's a lot of valuable people in our community who this would be fantastic in a volunteer capacity. Is that on the cards? Speaker 6: It's a brilliant idea and it is a volunteer-delivered program. Speaker 7: Oh, it is? Okay, that's done. Speaker 6: Yes, so we have an adult literacy coordinator as such, who is a paid physician, but the actual program is delivered wholly by volunteers. Speaker 7: So anyone can apply? Speaker 6: There is a set of criteria to be able to become a literacy educator, and then every year or two years we conduct a literacy training course, so that we provide them with the basic skills that are needed to deliver the service. Speaker 7: So it's the training they go through is the same type of certification that takes the training they go through, so that the volunteers are not only able to get the joy of doing it, Speaker 6: but they're able to actually connect with the course. Speaker 7: Yeah, right. And so with that, if you're doing a previous qualification but you're not registered, as a retired teacher, does that mean you still have to go through the table?

00:23:00 Yeah. Okay. Quite, yeah, quite a different type of training. All right. Councillor Jurisevic: And obviously in the end your report will be available on the website for all the public to read and value the library service. Speaker 1: Mr Chairman, I have a question. Please. Tracey, I love all the data that you've provided. I'm interested in your opinion on what's happening. You've got visitation declining from 2016, quite steadily, despite during the COVID year, loans decreasing at the same time over the same period, but total active membership, current membership, holding steady. So what's going on there do you think? Speaker 6: So there's a number of elements to that. Yeah. Over the last, you know, four or five years, we've had some significant change in the library service.

00:24:00 As I mentioned in the report, in 2017, we undertook our $1.7 million major renovation of our big year's library service in Isabel Library. Yes. And that caused, you know, the impact of that is we had to close that service nearly a year and open two temporary locations, which could have a potential impact to the loans and visitation. And then quickly following that, we had the COVID arrive, which has had an impact. The strong membership really shows that people are still using our service, and they could be using it in a variety of different ways that aren't measured through visitation and loans. Speaker 7: So like all the programs you provide. Speaker 6: Absolutely. Space and social connections, programs that we deliver. Councillor Jurisevic: Again, digital services wouldn't have ceased through COVID, though, would they? Even if the library closed, we've still been offering digital access. Speaker 6: You're absolutely right, Councillor.

00:25:00 They actually increased. So we immediately stepped in and increased our e-library content. Yeah. We created online programming. We transferred as much as we put into the digital arena since it closed. Councillor Jurisevic: And just as people being at home might have caused them to go back into their own libraries and pull out books they haven't read for a while. Speaker 7: It's also what we saw is that instead of people coming weekly, they might come monthly or six-weekly because of being stuck as members, which is a good thing. It's just their pattern of usage has dissipated even more in the ups and downs. Speaker 1: Yeah. Anything else, Kelsie? Speaker 4: Yes, I've got a couple of questions. Do we have an indigenous book collection? Speaker 6: We do have a heritage library that has a strong collection of the history of Noosa, and that includes as much as we can of the local history.

00:26:00 You may recall we just recently also released Recollect, the online platform. That now provides an online platform where we can host and really catalogue our collection and post it online for people to access. So yes, it's a strong focus for our library service. Speaker 4: And indigenous books written by indigenous people, that's part of that collection as well, is that right, Kelsie? Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely. So they may not be... I guess we have indigenous authors from all over Australia. It's a challenging area for... Speaker 7: Do we still have a job and labor? Speaker 6: I believe so, yeah. Speaker 7: So our fiction collection has what we call job and labor, and one of those is an indigenous one, so it used to be a player.

00:27:00 Oh, that's bad. And so that highlights indigenous elements in our collection. Speaker 4: Do we invite our First Nations people to come and do some storytelling at the library? Yeah, absolutely. Speaker 6: And how is that received? So a number of years ago, a couple of years ago, we actually got a local indigenous storyteller and author to come in a series of different storytelling workshops. And his name was Greg Drive, actually, and he designed a special children's library membership card for us as well. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. Speaker 4: Good one. Reconciliation Action Plan. Do we have one? Speaker 7: We don't have one. We have had consultation with the Native Childhood Advocacy Bureau about that. You know, we would be keen to pursue one. It's not the right...

00:28:00 It has not been the right time for them years ago. They've been very focused on achieving their determination as their first priority. We could start one ourselves, but I don't think we'd get as much benefit out of it without being able to be fully engaged. So we're being very respectful of them. We have had some recent discussions about it because we're saying, well, maybe we can see a time in the future where we might have capacity for that. So when they have capacity, we would certainly be looking to bring that forward. We are considering at the moment putting in a new interview to start something. But it very much... We don't want to put reasonable pressure on our African group. Even without the RAPSO, we're making... You know, we're continuing to... We're trying to strengthen that relationship with our Kabi Kabi group, but also the other...

00:29:00 Many other Indigenous people that are in the community. And you can see that through things like Sliding Land and the work that Tracey does in the library for the programs. And that's, you know, reconciliation, action work, et cetera, with the program. Councillor Jurisevic: I know we've got our director of that area here, but we are talking about the annual report of the library service. So I know you went on... Speaker 4: I'm talking about Indigenous book collections. That's part of the library service. So that's where you're going with regards to the reconciliation? Well, it's an opportunity to develop... I just wondered where the question was coming from. So it's an opportunity to develop Indigenous resources and book collections and storytelling. In that essence, okay. Another question is in regards to the December 17th mandate, what impacts will that have on our library facilities? Speaker 6: So I believe the directive only came out today.

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00:30:00 So we need to take some time... So do you have it? I'm sorry. There is too many pages. We need to take some time to carefully consider the guidelines and ensure that we know the finer details of that. But rest assured, we have spent the last two weeks planning for any potential scenarios. So I think we're well placed to move forward with that in December 17th. Speaker 1: Are you able to say whether a library service would be considered an essential service? Speaker 7: My indicative reading is that our public libraries would not be included under the requirements for vaccination for people entering the services. That's my understanding from the setting of it. I actually feel reasonably comfortable about libraries in terms of them being excluded. I'm working my way through the next job actually. So in the context of libraries, yet what I don't understand

00:31:00 and what I'm trying to find within it is then what density restrictions or other restrictions there might be on those facilities that are excluded from the schedules. So that's a piece of work. So yeah. I'll have some time to read it. Speaker 1: I look forward to your advice. Yeah. Any further questions? Yeah. On page 39, the library management graph, the 1920 and 2021 figures for library management expenses were dramatically reduced. And so that's... Speaker 7: Can I just look at that? Just apologies. Can we just get the... We've just got a different page number. Can we just see what it is for a page? Speaker 1: Page 14. Page 14 of your report. Councillor Jurisevic: Quite interesting. Thank you very much. Speaker 1: So you see how the library management, the green bar is very high for 18 and 19.

00:32:00 And then for 19, 20, 20, 21, library management costs are very low. I know we didn't sack anybody. But just the library managers, their costs dispersed to other centres or something. How do we account for those low figures in 19, 20, 20, 21? I went to Frank. I was talking to him. I looked at you. Speaker 6: Yeah. I'll do it to him. Speaker 7: Yeah. So it's a change in costing. We're particularly... That one, maybe we're into challenging. Speaker 1: We look at the same amount of library managers, haven't we? Speaker 6: There has been a vacancy over the last number of years. And with the challenges around COVID, it has been difficult, I should say, to fill that with the right person. And we're currently reviewing our structure now. I'm hoping to... Yeah. Speaker 1: That's more than one person, isn't it?

00:33:00 Previously, 18 and 19, it has cost up around $1.2 million. And then it's dropped down to about $100,000 in 19, 20, 20, 21. Speaker 7: Councillor, we have to take that on advisement. But I do know that we've had a change where at one point we had a number of staff under that particular cost centre. Annually, we're required to report to State Library with statistical data because of the funding that we get from them. And I know that we made a change Speaker 6: to actually make it easier to be able to answer their questions Speaker 7: about who was funded for what particular activity. And so we made some changes to cross lines there. Speaker 1: It's just an accounting... Change in accounting. Speaker 7: It's too big. Speaker 1: We haven't shared staff to that extent. Speaker 7: We haven't shared staff, absolutely not, no. There are a couple of things there. We have had some vacancies that we've been carrying through.

00:34:00 So there's been a reduction actually to the actual expenditure there. Not to say that the positions have been removed. They're being filled. But we've had a change in accounting as well. So this is a team that sits within the Libraries and Galleries branch. And so one of the issues that State Library was having with our reporting was that the overall branch manager was featuring in the statistical and the financial data for Libraries. And so part of it was lifted up. So the staff that were across the branch would lift it up to that. There's another cost centre that sits above it. Speaker 6: So around reporting there's been no change, no reduction in staffing for Libraries. Speaker 7: This shows that there's not much difference. No. At the top. So they're quite... Councillor Jurisevic: When I look at that across all the grants, the yellow and blue are higher and all the other categories and whatnot.

00:35:00 Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 7: There have been some changes as well to... So in most other areas in Council, you would have seen that the corporate overheads component, the internal charges would have increased. Things like insurance, computer technology, et cetera, for Libraries. That has actually reduced as our finance people have. Their model of drivers behind internal charges has become much more sophisticated. So whereas, for example, the internal charge for IT services in Libraries is huge because Libraries have over half of PCs in the entire organisation. But when they actually had a look at that, they're not the same PC that might be sitting here that's running all of our expensive corporate systems. They're essentially just a laptop or a dummy PC providing internet access.

00:36:00 So there's been quite a change in corporate, the way corporate charges have been applied. Councillor Jurisevic: Good to see some samples of benchmarking data. I thought that was a great inclusion. I quite like reading the comparisons against other Councils of similar nature with regard to some of those cost centres and elements of Library operations. The Luther Seed Library is a new one. How's the Seed Library going? Has it been a relatively new sort of service? Speaker 6: It's very successful. And over the time of being a new country, we've launched the Seed Library and we've had over 2,500 packets of seeds being borrowed. But the sign of success really is when you see customers starting to return the seeds. So that's a sustainable cycle and that is happening and we continue to work with pharmacologists to deliver workshops both in the Library and on their location as well.

00:37:00 This year we're looking to introduce two or three new seed packets and engage another couple of local artists to design the seed packets. So I don't know, you can tell I'm very excited about it. Councillor Jurisevic: My tomatoes are sprouted but my bell peppers haven't. Speaker 4: In regards to the mobile library and the book kiosk, are we on track to delivering those? I note on the report page 48, kiosk early 2022 and a new vehicle launched mid-2022. So we're on track? Speaker 6: That's right. So as is with everywhere, there has been a slight delay with supplier issues. In regards to getting the vehicles from overseas. However, we're still on track. So we actually launched a new outreach lifelong learning program out within the community

00:38:00 in July last year. So we're activating those programs both at Peregian and Pomona which starts delivering similar workshops in Kin Kin. And that has been well received. One kiosk was ordered for a Peregian community house. The invitation to quote for the kiosk at Pomona has just closed. So we're about to order that one. And the vehicle is on track. Speaker 7: Great. There was a change there. Council has gone for the location of the one in Pomona. So we're using Councillor Jurisevic: We're using different kiosks? Speaker 6: We're using the same kiosk. But as Terry was saying, there was a risk identified with having the kiosk located externally. Okay. And so we now are moving forward with having them both located internally in the city house. That's right. That's good. Speaker 2: Yeah. Speaker 7: And both, I must say, both in and out of the community. Absolutely fantastic. That's good. It provides a really good opportunity there to show, you know, a sort of partnership program.

00:39:00 Speaker 6: That's where we're running the programs in Pomona as well. Councillor Jurisevic: I know the digital literacy support's been going on for quite some time in the library. Well received. 3D printing and all this. Is there any charge for 3D printing in the library? Speaker 6: No. So we deliver a suite of free introductory sessions on a range of different emerging technologies. And that's 3D printers. We now have a laser cutter, virtual reality. We have the sewing machines still remain popular. Excellent. It's all free. It's all free. There is a, there's an alternative service we provide is to become a member of the Makerspace. And that means you can use it at any of the opening hours. And that's a $20 charge. Mostly so that you get the introductory lesson and a work health and safety overview. And then you get your own little membership card and you can access that. Councillor Jurisevic: That would be up at the 3D printer next year.

00:40:00 Speaker 6: Do they pay for the materials to print? Yeah. Slightly. Yeah. There's an option. Yeah. I would have thought they would have done that. Speaker 1: Yeah. And do you offer a service at the moment where people can come in and have their vaccination certificate linked to an app? Yeah. Can you explain what that is please? Speaker 6: So that's one of the great things about our library service is it's been able to identify a community need and then evolve and adapt to meet that need. We originally knew that there is a large demographic of older people here who would struggle with COVID requirements. So we moved straight ahead into planning a series of workshops. I liaise with Prince at the Fritjian Digital Hub and together we developed a program that uses the Digital Cadet. It's sponsored by Technology One which helps support the cost and it uses the youth in our community to support our community in linking either their MyGov or Medicaid details

00:41:00 into their cheque-to-check-in app. If people don't have a smartphone or a device, we can assist them with printing out their certificates so they have it on hand. And it's not only about people wanting to get around in our community. We've been helping people who want to go interstate to see families. So even if it's not a requirement yet here, it has been a requirement for some time interstate. In the first week that we've been living it, we've helped over a hundred people. And that's within about eight sessions. We have over 200 people on the Expression of Interest list. So the demand is really high. How can people register? Speaker 7: No, I was going to say people will turn up at venues and they'll sit in there for half an hour trying to get staff at the venues to help them, which we won't have the capacity to do it. So it's fantastic. Speaker 6: It's a great program. One person can take either half an hour or 15 minutes to two and a half hours depending

00:42:00 on, you know, whether they have an email or they have a shared email or, you know. Councillor Jurisevic: A log up account. That's right. Or a Medicare app. Yeah. A Medicare app link. Yes. No one knows I'm advertising. Yeah. Speaker 7: It's a really good generational program. Speaker 1: How do they access the program? How can anyone access this program? Speaker 6: So we're promoting it just to contact the libraries either by email, libraries at noosa.prg.gov.au or calling us on the number and staff will put their name down on an Expression of Interest sheet and we'll contact them when the time becomes available. We initially started just with Saturdays. Speaker 2: Don't quake around. Speaker 6: We initially started just with Saturdays but the demand was so high so. Councillor Jurisevic: So it's a face to face service. Speaker 6: It's face to face service. Yeah.

00:43:00 Not only are we helping people in those sessions, we're helping people on the ground at the front line, you know, so if there's time at our customer service areas, our team will help people when they come in. Speaker 1: Thank you. The excellent report on one of the most valuable services this councillor offers. Absolutely. Wonderful, thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: Councillor Lorentson, are you moving that? I'll move that, thank you. Seconded, Councillor Stewart. All in favour? Thank you, Tracey. Thank you, Karen. Good luck with that light reading. We'll move on with item 9, the 2021 Annual Disaster Management Report. James, welcome to the table. And congratulations, James. Speaker 7: Thank you, councillor. Councillor Jurisevic: He wasn't there. He wasn't there, you don't get it. And Alan Hazel takes your giveaways, so. Speaker 5: Yeah, I was out putting the wet stations out in the rain. It was very innovation, wasn't it, the award? It was, yeah.

00:44:00 Councillor Jurisevic: Congratulations. Thanks very much. Absolutely right. James, would you like to give us a bit of a summary on where we're at with the end of 2021 with our Annual Disaster Management Team? Speaker 5: So I'll start with the Disaster Management Plan. We've started a review of our Disaster Management Plan. We're looking to complete that by June 2022. So we've got V&T consultants on to do that. They've already conducted most of the risk assessment. We've got another risk assessment meeting coming up on Thursday. And then we'll have further risk assessment meetings with our partner agencies. On top of that, we've also secured funding for the aged care facility plan. So there'll be a tie-in together where we'll do risk assessments with them as well and help them with their planning. So a new plan for 2022, a sub-plan, a recovery sub-plan. We'll also be a part of that Disaster Management Plan as well. Councillor Jurisevic: So we're taking that on? Yeah. Because we're updating part A, which we'll be updating part B?

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00:45:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. We're going to do all of them. It encompasses all of our assessment plans and the rest of the sub-plans. We had some minor changes to the initial LEMG, just a few agency changes, and we've had a few representative changes, but nothing significant from that perspective. We haven't had any accusations this year. We're only just sticking with our public status for COVID. So I thought, you know, we're OK. Just keep the rain where it is, please. We've got new meeting dates for next year, so we still meet quarterly. The first one being the 18th of February. Our operations... Is that the 11th of February? Yeah, the first one's the 18th of February. It was originally the 11th, but it was the 10th of February. Councillor Jurisevic: Oh, sweet. So it has been updated, because mine states the 11th of February. Speaker 5: I'll have to see if it's suited up. They tell us in the mail.

00:46:00 The operations... Emergency operations team. So that's a group that sits kind of within Council, but it's different to the LEMG. It's evolving at this stage. We're looking to finalise a chart for that hopefully tomorrow. It's now going to take into more crisis management, emergency management, disaster management and business continuity. So it's going to have quite a few different visits there. In terms of our training emphasises, we've done a lot of Guardian training with our LDC staff. We've actually given Guardian training to our contact police as well, as well as our Energex crews too. They've had some training in that space. We've had evacuation centre training and we've had disaster coordination training. We're rolling out as much as we can and getting good up-to-date performance staff from that. We've also actually managed to recruit a number of new staff. I think the LDC is there as well, which is really great. We've got Larry actually. So we ran a day and a few sessions and we had Tom and Pat complete on each session. We've got some really interesting people.

00:47:00 Councillor Jurisevic: There was talk about the opportunity of maybe getting people that had past experience in either police fire or that, that maybe are retired in our community and that sort of thing. Certainly there was, yeah. Is that being looked at? Speaker 5: It was when numbers were low, but I think we've actually got a lot of really interesting people who have come through now to get us to these numbers. I think with the training that we're proposing for next year, I think we're in a good space. Councillor Jurisevic: Keeping the opportunity of using Bob's experience of Boring Point as a Boring Point contact point. Speaker 5: Yeah. And then we ran our big disaster management exercise at the J, which is the Boring Point community. That was well received and highlighted how our system does it. How it does work and what the community expectations for us in a disaster would be. And then engagement collaboration. So Cheryl has been doing a lot of really good work in this space. So Cheryl's position still goes through to about June next year.

00:48:00 And then she rolls back into another position. So then it's back down to myself. And then I've got to try and find resilience. I'll just actually find the emphasis if I can continue the work that she has done. Excellent. Yeah. Speaker 7: I've got a question, James, especially around what year. Have you finished? Speaker 5: I'd like to keep going, but I've got a couple of questions. Speaker 7: Well, two things about the collaboration Cheryl's been doing. My parents hang out with a whole bunch of people and they're all retired. And some of them live at Retirement Village. And this isn't a question. This is a big kudos to you. And apparently some of the staff, and it may be Cheryl, came to visit the Retirement Village and they just said they were outstanding. So just to pass that feedback on to Cheryl that they just thought it was wonderful. Was this the Weiber one? It was. Yeah. Was that you and Cheryl? Yeah, Cheryl and I. We did that on Monday. They were so impressed. Oh, were they? The people, the community, they said, please pass that on. Yeah. Just they thought it was wonderful. Councillor Jurisevic: That was associated with trying to find the plans for aged care for general people. Speaker 5: No, this was separate. This was just engaging with the community.

00:49:00 Oh, great. Helped them with their preparedness. Speaker 7: Yeah. Yeah. They were beyond impressed. Cool. Yeah. So well done to you and Cheryl. Yeah. Speaker 6: Yeah. Speaker 7: And secondly, just, and it comes back to your question, if Cheryl, if we don't get that, I've seen the risk of opportunities. Yeah. We have put in for. The Black Summer. Yeah, the Black Summer. Yep. If we don't get it. Yep. So is it then up to us as a council to ensure that, say, Cheryl remains in that role or we have those resources to then, in the next budget round, to put forward that? Potentially, yeah. Speaker 5: Okay. There is another funding round coming up in February. Okay. A disaster resilience fund. But, I mean, we still have to work out, probably through ET, what our project priorities are. But I'd be putting that one as . We've got five projects in with this last round of Black Summer . So it is one of the major ones in there. Speaker 2: True. Yeah. Speaker 5: But it will, it does leave us a little bit of a gap if we lost that position of funding. So, yeah. We couldn't roll out the things that we've been rolling out, which is our primary school

00:50:00 programs. That was with the Shepard and Tewantin, which was really well received, which is the preparedness one. And then we've still got engagement around fire and preparedness, so. Speaker 7: You could, though, if we had found funding for it in the budget. Yeah. Yeah. If we didn't, if we weren't successful in this branch. Yeah. Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. James, long range weather forecasters like the names of Hayden Walker, Lennox Walker. Do you tap into long range weather forecasters? And is there anything that you can tell us about the likelihood of severe blows or cyclones in the next six months? Speaker 5: Yeah. So, Lenina on my modelling experience. So, BOM is a really good one to go to for us on that. And they have notified, obviously, that Lenina has been engaged, and we are dealing with that now. The frequency of lows and cyclones will potentially increase, and the severity of those will increase. So, we're in that phase. Councillor Jurisevic: So, we're going to need to see the LDMG to get an update from the weather bureau

00:51:00 on what's the like of it in the upcoming... Speaker 1: So, that's been received already, John? Yeah. Speaker 5: So, I get forecast outlooks, and then situational briefing. Situational briefing is probably every day. Yeah. And then three-day, I'll get the five-day forecast. And then beginning of each season, I'll get the outlook. And then probably monthly from that, I'll get outlook as well. Councillor Jurisevic: And every time there's a weather event update, we get... Everyone on the LDMG gets an update as to what the... Almost on a daily basis. With the rain forecast, we can go to any potential storm. Speaker 5: Yeah. And then the community can actually subscribe to our newsletter as well. So, we get messages every time that something in our region shows that we've been really good at it. Yeah. Speaker 4: James, we've got... I don't know how many, but our beaches are now... I think the lake is located, or something?

00:52:00 Mishal, has that been included, their locations, on our dashboard? Speaker 5: No. I can have a look at that, though. I'll see. You don't have to use it? Yeah, I mean, we've dropped a number of places just over our maps and everything. That'd be great. Speaker 4: Uh-hmm. Also, in regards to member agencies of the local disaster management group, and correct me, it may be already covered under the Clean Zones spouse and wildlife services, I note I note RSPCA is not included as one of those groups, and I would have thought they would be key in animal management in disaster planning. Speaker 5: Yeah, we do do a lot of it through Noosa Council to begin with, but then we do the animal management when it comes to emergency evacuation and disaster evacuation. We still have a lot of work to do on that, and one of the plans will be around coming up with animal management. RSPCA, our groups are pretty full. We can have an advisor, but we do keep contact with them.

00:53:00 Councillor Jurisevic: We're really, through local laws and our animal management, we've got regular contact with the RSPCA anyway. Speaker 4: And only because I've been receiving a bit of, a few emails with some really good information in regards to the grass tree development at Sunrise Beach. I just want to start by, our care at Cooran Junction, in 2019 there were 25 trucks that were tied up when there were fires, so in that context, have we identified the blue care grass tree development as a high risk site in terms of resident mobility and as part of disaster management? Speaker 5: We've always come up with four, and that might actually bring more of a new question. Oh, okay.

00:54:00 Yeah. Um, that, that either risk area through there, um, Speaker 4: Um, high risk is what the information that I've been looking at at the moment, surrounded by National Park, and I've got a lot of residents, um, really concerned. Speaker 5: Yeah. Speaker 4: Um, and it'd be great if we can just maybe investigate, um, where that should be listed. Okay. Or, or, or, yeah, um, we've got a bushfire hazard assessment and management plan, um. Councillor Jurisevic: We're certainly working with each of the aged care facilities to upgrade all of their plans for, uh, dealing with disaster, any disaster event, and that's something that Council and the LDM, through the LDMG, has been approaching each of those aged care facilities that are in operation, uh, with that, and this, uh, I believe the disaster plan, actually it's part of planning, I believe, the blue care and, um, one of McKinnon Road have both got, um, a, a, a, a, part of the requirement there, um, establishment is that they have to have a bushfire or a disaster management plan for each of those.

00:55:00 Speaker 4: They do, that has to be updated every year. Yeah, well, they haven't been built yet, so they've got, yeah. That has been submitted as part of the operational plan, but the site would be great if it's still listed, um, because it's high risk and of high community concern, um. Speaker 5: Uh, and this is the one at Sunshine, Sunshine? Speaker 4: Grass Tree, yeah. Speaker 5: Grass Tree? Yeah. Yeah. We could certainly do that. I mean, the main thing would be to, um, notify, uh, emergency, uh, agencies to, to let them know that, of that. Um, and they have what's called local, uh, local action plans as well, so they'll identify that they're a high risk community . Yeah. Speaker 7: When will that be finished, completed? Speaker 4: I don't know. Speaker 7: Yeah. Speaker 4: It's just interest, it's just interesting when you read the offer, um, the bushfire There's a lot of disclaimers saying that even if it's compliant with building codes etc, it still won't guarantee that it's free or wish-file risk, and it's for that reason that it would be disgruntled for the local disaster management group to have that identified as a high-risk area.

00:56:00 Speaker 5: Yep, okay, I will look at that. And some of the new tools that we're looking at through the Pritchard Digital Hub has that for customer tech, really evacuation tech as well that you can work out with. Councillor Jurisevic: I think we've identified the fact that they're all vulnerable communities of people that need special attention in the event of any emergency event, so we are working with them on evacuation things. Speaker 5: And we could work with them a bit more, so with Sunshine Coast Butterflies we've provided a letter of support and advice to them around their plan, which was putting in new tanks and pump systems for, because they were impacted by the fire. So there's that, we could offer them that. There were sprinkler systems on the boundary. There's actually new fencing, ember fencing that you could put up, if you want that as well. Councillor Jurisevic: QPETS provide that service as well? Speaker 2: They do. Speaker 4: You've held a, we attended, it was disaster preparedness at Sunshine Coast Butterflies.

00:57:00 That's right, at Sunshine Coast Butterflies, yes. Yeah, it's really good. Yeah. Speaker 5: But I can just provide you also just a bit of an update on SES if you'd like. So they've had a number of call-outs in the past 12 months. Managed the trees down, some structural damage, a little bit of flooding that we have had. They've had an agency request for QPETS. They've done a lot for us with COVID. They were brought down to the Sunshine Coast Airport to assist with that as well, and ran their business through a QAS assistance. And we opened up that QAS COVID at Noosaville. Councillor Jurisevic: And we're going with resourcing of those trees, the SES sheds and all that sort of thing. Speaker 5: Yeah, not too bad actually. Warren's back as well. So he and I are going to catch up very soon. Councillor Jurisevic: That's good. You guys have been talking about Boring Point. We've been raised, we've been raised by the Boring Point community. Yeah. Speaker 5: And Warren's coming to our EAT meeting tomorrow to discuss more about what his wishes are for the future and how that's going to go. Councillor Jurisevic: So Warren, we've got someone here on what their needs are.

00:58:00 We can fix it. Speaker 5: Yeah. I'll ask him if we can mention the meeting so I can understand him from that. Councillor Jurisevic: Sorry, sorry. Thank you. Speaker 5: So we're still going with our Get Ready funding, which is going really well. That helped us with our schools program. Our Bushfire Recovery Funding for 2019 is going really well. I think we'll finalise that by about June. So we've had the new truck out to the aerodrome. We've had all those things run out. Just a few final projects to finalise before June. We've discussed that it's not going to be as well as Cheryl's position. We'll change that into that one. Firetech's going really well with Chris Bowden. That's the LERP funding. We've applied for more funding to run more trials through that. That's good. Have you replaced any more cameras before? Yeah. So we've actually just secured an agreement with a company called Pano IO out of California. They're shipping us four cameras and a whole bunch of tech to come out on the 20th of December. Awesome.

00:59:00 We're going to look at replacing the camera systems on Mountain Viewer and at our Black Mountain repeater site. So we're going to have four cameras. Dual cameras on each side. And these are actually fire detection cameras. So we have fire monitoring cameras. So we could use them from one to the next, I think. These will actually be detecting fire. For the generation? Yeah. First in Australia. So we're going to do that. So looking forward to having that out there. We've now put out seven fire weather stations. That was last week. And two fire hazard weather stations. And so they're weather stations. But they also have a solar moisture program and a light emission centre. So it can tell how green the environment is. So that we've got to do a bushfire risk. And one of them is actually placed in here in the space just below that proposed nuclear area. So behind Noosa Springs. And between some of our beach and area. And Council Land has actually got one of those fire hazard weather detection systems in there. Councillor Jurisevic: Of course with the current water flooding, probably more of a concern than bushfires

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01:00:00 at the moment. Speaker 5: It started recording as soon as we put it in because we were saturated. Councillor Jurisevic: But our flood monitoring system, how's that going? We'll have some discussions about that this morning. Because there was some new stuff that Carl introduced in that regard. Have we been following through on that and just seeing how that's progressing? Speaker 5: We have. And it hasn't worked out like we had hoped it would work out. We've had discussions with Brian and Larry. We're moving towards potentially a new system called FloodMap. Which is more around a fast resolution, high regulation mapping function. That we're going to push out soon to say it needs time for this aerial map. Whereas that was a forecasting system that never really... It took in Rainfield, which is the system from Bonk. But it didn't provide the information that we're after. So we're going to terminate any future works with that. And then we've got a new system. Councillor Jurisevic: Okay. There was a whole bunch of new flood gauges and a lot of big stations associated with that as well. So they're all... Speaker 5: That would be drawn into FloodMap.

01:01:00 And then hopefully there's an opportunity to look at... Councillor Jurisevic: That would give us a live indication of where rivers are at. We've got a... Speaker 3: Yeah. And the thing with this one is it's the same system that government is now using. So it gives us a... Okay. I can't deal with it. Otherwise... All the different systems are all different. Yep. Speaker 1: So that's the idea of this. Speaker 3: Yeah. Speaker 1: So, James, while you're talking about biotech, we had that visit from Shane Stone, the head of the National Disaster Recovery and Resilience Agency. And he was very impressed with biotech systems and the talk that he saw at the Digital Hub. Yep. He said that this isn't happening anywhere else in the nation. Speaker 5: No. It's... Speaker 1: Well, now he was sending a team back to engage with your team and Chris Bowden to learn a bit more. Yep. What has come from that? Have they come back to that second visit yet? They have. Speaker 5: So that's in January. So we tried to get a meeting sorted, but it has been rescheduled to January. They couldn't make it up. Yep. So we are having another meeting again in January for that.

01:02:00 And we have got funding, a funding application for that. So hopefully they've seen the good work we've done and they hopefully get additional funding for it. And Chris Shane... We're leaving the country. Councillor Jurisevic: We should hopefully... They had $400 million. We should hopefully get up to the pilot. Speaker 7: The Disaster Recovery, I believe. Speaker 1: Yeah. And he did also say that... The gentleman who gave the fire tech presentation said they were looking at a 3D model that would... It would replicate the landscape. Sim table. Sim table. Yep. And then model where a fire is likely to attract, depending on weather conditions. Yep. And he's... His ears pricked up when he heard that. He said there's one like that in a top secret disaster. I think it's some secret department in the community. Yeah. And he said there's no point in reinventing the door. Come on down. We'll show you the facility. Have you taken enough of that off? Speaker 5: I think we'll follow that up in January when we can. Yeah. Yeah. We've got...

01:03:00 He was more about the setting up an ICC, so command center, to see exactly... And so same as the state one. We're getting down there to see that. But we're hoping to secure that sim table as part of the big data lab as well. You know, the place to go and see all the things. Speaker 1: And is the digital hub big enough to accommodate a facility like that? Speaker 5: So we're taking the community center next door. And then that plan... I don't know if it's worth it, Chris and Adam, to say if it's got anything going for the potential to go up and up a level. So they're looking for designs. I see. Speaker 1: The retrofit of it. Speaker 5: The old one. Yeah. The old one. It becomes the big data lab. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And then there's... I was just saying to them, whether or not digit proofing, let's see if we can make it off another level. We could just match the same height as the rigid digital hub would give us room for expansion. So they're looking at that. So instead of cutting ourselves off, just make it easier to go up a level. Councillor Jurisevic: It may be that what's on the bottom side has not enough foundation in it to... We may have to look at a different site.

01:04:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. But that's going well. I think it's working really well. And depending on Larry this morning, Phytec may potentially go beyond just fire as well and evolve into all-hazard flood, all-hazard risks, or even beyond that into general environmental And I have the rate car detection radar system today and the people monitoring detection system as well. And those are linked into our Loiland system. Speaker 1: What's the people monitoring system? Speaker 5: So you can identify how many people are moving in through an area and back. So we can use that data just for general usage of an area. Or we can do that for evacuation monitoring as well. So it just monitors like a radar how many people are going into an area. So if we want to know, if we have to evacuate an international park, we know how many potentially people are in there walking around that one area. Councillor Jurisevic: Well, the North Shore, how many people have gone up the North Shore? Speaker 7: It's like a check if you've been back here.

01:05:00 Councillor Jurisevic: That's probably the most challenging one that we've ever had is, you know, the fire on the North Shore, how many people are up there, how many we've had to evacuate or in the event of cyclone conditions, how many we've had to evacuate. Speaker 5: Yeah, so we're going to put one on the early business, so they're kind of ready to deploy that. Speaker 1: We're just waiting on that. Yeah. Speaker 5: To break it. Speaker 1: Sure. I've got a question. Do they detect wildlife as well? Speaker 5: They can. So they can detect, there's a whole array of centres and you can get them to do bird calls or animal calls and things like that. And you can actually track how many people. So if you've got a tag and you want to track where wild pigs go or whatever, you can do that. Councillor Jurisevic: Can my camera fly very easy? Yeah. Speaker 4: Oh, so all hazards. Yeah. Landslips, landslides, given we're entering La Nina in the next six months, is that identified as a hazard? Speaker 5: So part of our risk assessment will be working around identifying that. They're always a hazard in the sort of communities where you get steep roads and people can die.

01:06:00 Speaker 4: And they're also defined as a natural disaster too, so. Councillor Jurisevic: Yeah, if they're identifiable through our planning scheme, we've got a hazard, a landslip over there. Speaker 5: We do have that, yeah. But I mean, we could use centres like soil moisture centres and those sort of areas if we wanted to, so that they're now being a bit of a saturation or something, and that should be one if we need it. Councillor Jurisevic: And some of those here, we're doing land switch at the moment, land subrime. That's where I'm going with these, that's right. Larry knows me. Anything further? Speaker 4: No, I'm good. Councillor Jurisevic: We have Councillor Stewart, I'll second it. If there's no further discussion, all in favour? Thank you, James, and thank you for all the work you've done in looking after this group this year. Speaker 7: Thank you, James. Councillor Jurisevic: Well done, some great progress. And that's been the last item, no confidential session.

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