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Planning & Environment Committee Meeting - 8 March 2022 Transcript

Tuesday 08 March 2022 · 1 hour 6 minutes of recording · 440 lines · 5 voices, 0 named

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00:00:00 Speaker 3: Good morning and welcome to the March Planning Environment Committee meeting. We have all councillors in attendance. Are we going? No, but all councillors who are on the committee are in attendance and we have councillors in attendance. We have a minute to confirm, some of you want to confirm minutes. We have that move by Councillor Stewart, Councillor Finlay, all those in favour? They are passed. We have no presentations or expectations. But we do need to acknowledge the country and to recognise that today is International Women's Day. So I would like to acknowledge the committee. Thank you very much. We acknowledge the men of the Kabi Kabi people who are the people owners of the Shire. And we would like to acknowledge the leadership that we seek to honour.

00:01:00 Speaker 1: Thank you Councillor Stockwell. It is International Women's Day, thank you. So we do acknowledge all our women. We acknowledge our women locally. We acknowledge our women Australia-wide, Queensland-wide, but also internationally. And I think as we sat this morning at a wonderful breakfast with Zonta, and were reminded of the flights of the women who were before us, we also were privileged enough to have a hot cup of coffee and a hot meal. And my mind turns today to the women and children in Ukraine who have had to flee their homes and who don't have that luxury or have the advantage of having a home or food or running water or a shower. So I think as we stick in, it's far less fortunate and especially overseas this coming time. Speaker 3: Thank you. Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 3: So we're going to go on to reports of consideration by the committee. The first one is for a minor change to the development principle for Mockney housing plus four conventional 39 units at 75.

00:02:00 We've got five minutes ahead. Do you have some declarations for the committee? Speaker 1: Thank you. Speaker 3: Thank you, Mr Chair. Speaker 1: I counsel Stewart before the meeting that I have a terrible conflict of interest in this matter in relation to the application by Alton Construction. I have a personal friendship with Lee and Walt McCready who are associated with the applicant. As a result of my conflict of interest, I will now leave the meeting with them on this matter. It's considered unquestionable. Thank you. Speaker 4: I counsel Finzel in front of the committee that I have a terrible conflict of interest in this matter in relation to the application by Alton Construction. Speaker 5: Lee McCready will be associated with the applicant and will volunteer with Cassidy with my 2020 election campaign. I call on the內 members that they important to the future of this matter. Which is no longer the case. As a result of my conflict of interest, I will now leave the meeting with them on the matter as considered unquestionable. Thank you. Speaker 3: I also look in front of the meeting that I have a declare of a conflict of interest

00:03:00 in this matter in relation to the application by Alton Construction. And we have since completed that sort of new body into the centre of the election Speaker 3: As to the public training of youth in this city, I've been doing the public training the entire time that I've been training in this city. In the three years associated with pre-tax food, as I have served the public in this city, I do not believe that youth in this city could have the potential to do that. Because the only thing I could do was advise the service, not accept that pre-tax food process. And my food at that time were in the public interest, and neither I nor the youth in this city could expressly claim that they were in the public interest. Therefore, I refuse to remain in the living room, as I have respected the people in the living room, as I remain in the face of the disease. The people in my country are, again, the fairies, the physios, the opiates, and one of the other main things is health care.

00:04:00 Speaker 5: Thank you councillor. Speaker 3: Thank you councillor. Thank you councillor. Thank you councillor. We've discussed this numerous times with several companies, and it's always great to be able to share this information with you. Thank you. Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you.

00:05:00 Thank you. So this relates to a change in the program for how to package development in a business grade. So two of the solutions that I'm going to be talking about today, I'm going to be talking about some of the things that we're going to be talking about today. So with 44 ground units, we're now down to 39 ground units and what we're seeking to do is in an area in the sort of southern part of the site where there's a maintenance ship that was approved, we seek to add a manager's unit to that private facility and also to have a car wash bay that can come up in our location.

00:06:00 So it's raised some issues in terms of the car wash. In short, there's not really any issues that are raised by the garage from the car wash and so I'm not sure if there's no more that we've had to do. It's just that we've had to do it in particular because it's typically an issue in relation to that and also there's work to be done to address the issue of driving a car wash. But I'd love to say that I've been kind of watching myself and I know people that are. And so this seems like an opportunity. And again, we can assure you, what we're looking for is to be funded by the federal government, especially if it's funded by a little longer than the federal government. We are not including the federal government in that sense. That's correct. That's what we're looking for.

00:07:00 The other thing we're looking for is to be supported by a different community. We're looking for folks across the area who are funded. So it's, you know, it depends on what the federal government is going to do. And that's what we're looking for. It is huge that all the people that have come to us this year, that we would love to see managers and contractors moving on, on the premises, right here in the town of Cooroy. And so it's the managers that do it, not the contractors, it's the people that do it. I'm not aware that there is a manager at the town of Cooroy that provides that facility and it gives them a whole range of opportunities to manage the property, the grounds, I think I'm happy to move to the staff organisation. And I think the reason that this is a useful amendment, I think it probably sets a bit of an example that others might want to look at,

00:08:00 in terms of looking at what the new plan is going to look like in terms of if there is a way on to do it, if they do, for the caretakers and the managers and the surgeons to come and help with this. We know that trying to catch staff is important to me. Those workers that are going to be the increasing poverty in this area, we know that we can. We've got every little bit of priority to do with all our sites, so it's really, really important for the caretakers and the workers to come and make it useful. So, if you would let me know that. Okay. I'm sorry. Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Speaker 3: So, if you think it's perfect, just go to the video and let me come to you and tell you how you're doing. I think it's going to be straightforward.

00:09:00 So, we'll leave it there for you, because I want you to go back and do it for us. Do you want to do it for me? How are you doing, David? Good. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

00:13:00 Speaker 5: Thank you, David. Speaker 3: Thank you, David. Thank you, David.

00:14:00 Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Speaker 5: Thank you, David.

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00:18:00 Speaker 4: We have a few quick tips and tricks for you to learn more about the other world. We're too open-minded, there's no chance for a government to do this in the first place. We have to be able to learn the best way to do it. There is a big difference between the government's action and the government's action. But that may be just due to operations and activities on the side. We need to learn to act a little faster and do the best we can. We need to. Speaker 3: Thank you to everyone in the same boat, thank you to the committee for taking the time to be here, and thank you to the committee for taking the time to be here.

00:19:00 If you'd like to start with a brief overview of the report. Speaker 4: So we had to carry through the funding for the start of the project, so we had to start with the funding for the start of the project, so we had to start with the funding for the start of the project. Speaker 5: And what we do is, we've been existing for as long as we've been in the profession, and that's what we've done for all these years.

00:20:00 Speaker 4: But it's really about both sides of the equation. We've had both sides of the equation so far. But, I believe, Tewantin really knows how to do it, how to do it, how to do it, how to do it. It's just one process at a time. So, just off the screen, one process at a time. One process at a time. So, Tewantin, this is Vanessa. Vanessa has actually been working in the hard yard there with Graham. Speaker 1: She's been out there fronting around the landscape. Speaker 3: And we've been working with her. Speaker 4: Its worth to us, or I don't know what to say, or what to say.

00:21:00 I don't know what to say. Speaker 3: I don't know what to say. I don't know what to say. Okay, we have a question for Peter. So, at the time of adopting this plan, there was argument around, we thought we had the best quality mapping at the stage and the state, but I think we were, had to negotiate a compromise that just would help us get the pre-map so that we could identify a change

00:22:00 that would go through the process and become part of the state player. So there was a big change that we had to do. Speaker 4: Yeah, there was a big change in the state mapping. Of course, the state mapping is a state. We had to put it back on to the public assessment process. Speaker 3: But, so what we do, what the next process will be, is we've actually got some tools actually that's great. We've seen it happen. So we've got a lot of mapping for students to help us. Speaker 4: And that's the cost of 24 hours. So that'll take the exam to the end. Speaker 3: That'll be good. It's going to be good. Speaker 4: This is a process of state mapping. It's good, but it's a couple of times faster.

00:23:00 Speaker 3: Okay, in terms of what we're doing. Speaker 1: I just wanted to point out there on that, they don't follow their mapping because they're already mapping. And I was going to do one, two, one time a day. Speaker 4: So they never follow their mapping. They follow their mapping. And that's really important.

00:24:00 Speaker 3: And so that exemplary is, you know, the exemplary is, you know, the exemplary is, you know, the exemplary is that that's changed the problem of theology, the beauty of theology. Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a few changes, but yeah, that was something that's been, well, they've been there for a few years,

00:25:00 I've been there, and I train our social workers, and we're going to have a program that's going to be sent Speaker 5: to the platforms, and they'll be, you know, also, you know, they'll be back, and it's going to be, Speaker 4: you know, it's going to be, you know, it's going to be, you know, it's going to be, you know, All right, so I'm going to start with the first one that we are going to work with. So, we're going to do a few of these. Speaker 5: So, yeah. This building that is just standing aside, I think to be there, the back of that is a tree, and that's it. Speaker 4: So, we should be there. So, I think I'll have to ask for a few questions and then we'll go back to the first one.

00:26:00 Yeah, that's an iconic one, another little patch of Instacart. I'm making a tribute because I don't know if you're aware of this, but it's really good, it's really exciting. Speaker 3: They both have a different, a range of different things. Yeah, yeah.

30 minutes in

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00:30:00 Thank you. All those in favour? Thank you Peter and Vanessa. Thanks guys, thank you, nice to meet you. Speaker 5: I have a question. Speaker 3: An update on the News River Stakeholder Advisory Committee. Tom, would you like to give us an overview? Speaker 5: Good morning everyone. The News River Stakeholder Advisory Committee is a community-run initiative

00:31:00 which is based on our student-seeker governance model that involves community stakeholders, stakeholders from the Corrections Committee. The report provides an update on the activities that have been focused on over the last 12 months. The group deliberately was prioritising vessel management and use of the News River Stakeholder as one of the key activities, including the Maritime Safeguards and Speed Review, which is out at the present time, and also recommendations for saving vessels. Activities have been supported by resourcing as a result of the Parkland Corrections, and also a vacancy that has been filed by the Australian Self-Defense Force. But we've learnt some pretty good progress in various things, and judging by the level of community interest in the Speed Review at the moment, it's an issue that's very pertinent to our team. I'm optimistic that once the News River Stakeholder Advisory Committee is changed in place, we might be able to sweep it down in the first place.

00:32:00 And there's also some discussion there about the second year review, about what they've got in store for the next year. And I've asked the Council of Mayors to consider that we've got some clear recommendations from this meeting about the future of the City of Lothian, which has been revised by the City of New York Council, and we also have some recommendations about the ongoing governance model for the City of Lothian. This multi-stakeholder governance model that we've set up is fairly unique in that it's not just about the City of Lothian. Many of their sort of traditional attachment to the city's natural resources versus actually non-stakeholders, the tourism and recreation sectors. So it would be very interesting to see the evaluation of the success of the New York City's environmental resources. I do note in that discussion that when DUS and the Department of Environmental Science and the National Department of Climate Action were upon objectives in the environment for the East Coast, they deliberately chose to

00:33:00 use the East Coast as their target, because it was the next target for the city, rather than just practice on natural resources. So I'm not very happy with that, but I would say it's a good shot. I think it was a good choice. It's still widely run in the history of the city, but that's okay. We're going to have to get used to all of this. I think it's a good choice. Speaker 3: Thank you. Speaker 4: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 5: So the consultation programs .

00:34:00 That's exactly the same offices running the program, so I don't know the responses yet, but just so you're aware that the same offices are leading up to the program and the offices are running the program, so I don't know the responses yet. Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely.

00:36:00 Speaker 5: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. You know, I think, uh, the United States is a pretty sensitive product, um, and it's just a must-have, and it's just a must-have for a state. Thank you.

00:37:00 Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 4: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 5: Thank you. Um, there are, there, and again, um, there are, there, we are waiting out um, there were, again, Speaker 5: We have a lot of people who want to come up with solutions specific to the new school year without coming up with a solution that could be fast-forwarded. Which we will be brought up in the next few weeks. Just so everyone is aware, we have unregulated treatment for the new school year. We have more procedures, security measures specific to the new school year. And then we have unregulated treatment, which is more for both the new school and pretty well any way you want in the new school year.

00:38:00 Lula River is a little bit different because they both come at some time in the new school year. And also same with the New South Passage. And that's why we thought that a good sort of meeting consideration where we could focus on what's being applied by the National Security Service and the New South Passage and also on Lula River. And that would be a natural extension to apply to the new school year. Thank you. Well again, on speaking, I can't speak on the public health and safety reasons. But in an email they said that they were looking for a more strategic solution for the new school year. Speaker 4: So, do you have any questions about that? No, I'm not sure. Speaker 5: It's a holistic approach to the elements.

00:39:00 And I think some of the issues that we're facing in the New South Passage are the same across the state. We've got unlicensed, unregistered votes that we don't vote for. And also across the town. We've got a huge amount of young population. So, a number of the votes have been for the new school year. I don't know what my vote is. But I think they're going to be for the new school year. So, there's no way that we're going to be voting for the new school year. And then we've usually got river rights. We've got young, you know, teenagers that are here tearing around the river. We've got unlicensed, unregistered votes that are here tearing around the river. So, you know, and those issues are common for a lot of schools. Speaker 4: Shire, the bridge that we've passed, I mean, this is a new sort of state by the class of 2020. Do you think that the election will not be as key to that? Do you think that the election will not be as key to that? Speaker 5: Well, I think, you know, there is a sub-community, sub-group of community members.

00:40:00 So, we're interested to see what their reaction is. I'm sure they're very, very concerned. We're very interested in that. That's right. Yeah. So, I'm sort of very concerned. And I think this will be a key topic for discussion at the 25th of March. I presume that a number of the community members will want to see the outcome. So, if I'm allowed, I'll do it. In fact, that I have to do it. Okay. So, are we done, so let's start the question. I don't share your records.

00:41:00 Speaker 3: So I think they do have stories that have been put to use, but I think we can't really do far more specifically with people that we might be able to talk to about what we want to do there.

00:42:00 Speaker 4: This is a question, it's not a big question, but it's a big one. So what would you look out to, say, for something like the Big Entertainment, there's no action, there is action, and what about something like the Trust? Speaker 5: You know, can you talk a bit about that, say, what you've done with that across the world? I think in the future, I'm sure it will be very possible to provide a more holistic solution for people who are interested in various types of legislation that might be possible. It gives the answer for the ownership, but it also gives the opportunity for the world as a whole to be able to respond. If your system is different, it's not a new system, and this isn't a new world. That's wrong. I think this committee is a fantastic place to work at. In July, I think we're planning for the last two years to look at us in the steps into the future. But getting that advice, I mean, we're 100% on that route.

00:43:00 I think around, I mean, actually, it's a very different type of community. And in Israel, one of the biggest obstacles is that we actually don't have the type of work that's going on. As opposed to, like, poor legislation. And across the whole of Israel, we know what's going on at the table. Speaker 4: So I think that's an important step. And we're looking forward to actually hearing more about it. Speaker 5: And it's more options at the table. And that's what we're working on. So we're looking forward to it. It's fantastic. Fantastic. It's a lot of information. We really trust that. And they've got another three of those. Absolutely. Yes, they are. I'm a member of the trust, and I'm a member of the trust, and I'm a member of the trust. And we have a trust that actually holds the systems that we do.

00:44:00 And we've got rights to live in a whole range of different ways. So having come to the past, that's what I'm saying. We've got to establish that we've got things there, things that we know, particularly the management of all the values we're enforcing. Also, it needs a young people for us to be able to take care of the balance between our boys and the women, because it's important as well to speak on this, have our own voice, our own perspectives. There is a lot to work through here. Speaker 3: So I think it's familiar to you, it's a bit of a different subject, but we've got a bit of a different subject over there. There's a bit of a different subject over here. What's that like? I'm saying I've had the, there's an active way of lifting through the trust, and that's what we're going to get. And that's what we're all going to be doing in the late 90's. That's what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do. We're going to come straight to the end of the year. Yeah. So we're going to improve the trust on the country, and we've got to do that.

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00:45:00 Speaker 5: We were very impressed with the situation at Noosa Junction, especially with the fact that it has had some expansion. Speaker 3: Thank you for listening. Speaker 5: We were very excited to talk to you. Yes. It's a lot of fun, like you said. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. It has to be better. And that was our jet skis and our water skis. So that was actually proposed by the council. So that was our intervention in the process. So I think council does have a role to play

00:46:00 Speaker 4: as the co-chairs for this project. So there's an area of expertise that I think the history Speaker 5: is that we were advised by the previous co-chair chair of the council to implement the regulation

00:48:00 That was actually reported to me, so it was about, in spite of the fact that there's a lot of things happening in the city, I think there's a concentration, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people, there's a lot of people. And I think, and I believe that since then, there's been this growth, this increase, and there's been this growth, which has been a part of the survey period, and I think it's interesting to say that survey period does take place, because that's what it is, that's what it is, that's what it is.

00:49:00 But I think, you know, with COVID, people are staying at home, and I think, and I'm saying it's been massive, there's purchases of registration, there's purchases of registration, there's purchases of registration.

00:50:00 The survey has been completed which shows that a lot of research approaches have been taken into consideration. So there are actually key stakeholders in the community, such as the environment groups, and also to the range of people who have contacted me, because I'm yet to do that in my life, and there will be addresses, because I actually don't have the resources to actually do that. Speaker 3: You are one of the important people. Speaker 5: No, and we've also had lack of ground with the administration, obviously due to other issues as well. So, you know, I just need a clear dialogue to make the letters out, and it's actually due on my own. I do note that of the residents who have been involved in this aid group, I haven't had any response from the city at all. So I've had submissions from each of the local communities Speaker 4: and some of those in our communities.

00:51:00 Thank you. Do you have a question? No. No questions? No questions? No discussion. No discussion. No discussion. No discussion. Speaker 2: No discussion. Speaker 3: I think the other question we need to take out is, you know, you kind of explained, the kind of interesting topic that, you know, on that piece first, you told us that, you know, you had a question.

00:52:00 I think it is, we have to take care of where we are now. Thank you.

00:55:00 Speaker 5: They're the two pieces of cross-funders that make us all of this about this whole state of the union. Now, I'm not saying that we're not in control of this. I'm not saying that I want to have my own side. That would be information. That is advice and information. All I'm saying is that I'm also going to see 25 pieces of cross-funders to the Minister of the State of the Government in these days and the streets. And then I also just wanted to note that the Minister of the State of the Government did this on the basis of their review and all their opinions and stuff like this. But this was an appropriate action to take on to do. And we must remember the Minister of the State of the Government did just what was required of him. He was quite a man of his word. Speaker 3: And he cancelled legally the process.

00:56:00 And he did not know. And he also probably did for a little bit more time. And then that's been reported. And if you go to the board, there's a person who's been cancelled the process and you can see clearly on the menu on the list. And it comes up as the rate generated to be this. And there's a follow-up on the council, and that's the people who are fighting for it right now. Speaker 3: And they're fighting to do the time-out. And that's really the point. So it is a list to the next model of processes called the New Equator. And that was it. Once again, one, big, huge process, and no time. It is an easy-to-set-up, follow-up process. You have to be with your parties, help your community, and support your community.

00:57:00 Speaker 5: So one of the key considerations, I don't know how to say it, but the major issue is that sometimes a company is released and other times it's not released and trying to enforce that with people who've come to trip around the river during different times of the year is very difficult.

00:58:00 So in terms of the key messages we've received from our customers is that it might be safe to release all of this. It's one door at a time. Otherwise it's just impossible to enforce. And that's, it's not saying that it's, you know, it's the right thing to do. It's the right thing to do. . I also make the observation that . So it's . So. . . . Speaker 2: . Speaker 5: The first thing is that the vast majority of commercial business operators in New Zealand are just low-cost, you know, they're actually in the low 60s and 60s.

00:59:00 So the vast majority of the high-end businesses are just low-cost. So the number of businesses that require high-speed operations is actually relatively small compared to the majority. So that's the first point. I think that the second point is that the time difference that is actually required for something to go through is very limited. That's the reason we're doing that. As a result, we've gone from six months to seven months to six months to seven months. So I'll dig up that figure at the end of the day, but it's not a significant cost in terms of time difference. In terms of the extra time taken to go from this group up to this group, it's not a large deal. It's a large time, and that's the time that we already have to do it, and this is how we're going to do it in the next six months. So we're never going to say it's going to stay that way. It's going to stay that way for the rest of the year.

60 minutes in

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01:00:00 Speaker 3: And I think that the other thing that we're pleased with is that we have a big group of people. And the problem with that is that we have a big group of people. And we have a big group of people, and we have a big group of people, and we have a big group of people. Thank you to the professor for coming from another perspective, which is not the same stuff as what we've been doing. We've still got plenty of work to do, and we're going to continue to do what we've been doing, and we're going to continue to do what we've been doing, and we're going to continue to do what we've been doing.

01:02:00 Thank you. Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you. Speaker 2: Thank you.

01:04:00 Speaker 5: This is a state of essence. We have to accept and respect those things. And I can't go on about what is important to them. Speaker 3: They are the ones that we're looking at, we're looking at what's happening here. It's not about being, not being, not being. It was something that we picked up after a very long time. But that's it guys, we're only three minutes. So, thank you all so much for being here.

01:05:00 Speaker 3: So we'll move on to coming up to questions. Do you have any questions to Kerri that's coming back? Thank you, Sean. Speaker 1: Thanks. Speaker 3: I don't think we need an overview of this. I think we just need to get a notification of the decision made by the planning department. Thank you. Thank you.

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