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Services & Organisation Committee Meeting - 8 November 2022 Transcript

Tuesday 08 November 2022 · 1 hour 1 minutes of recording · 1,000 lines · 13 voices, 5 named

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00:00:00 Councillor Jurisevic: Starting with item one, contract number RP73, Register of Pre-qualified Supplies for Parks and Landscaping Services. Welcome, Matt. I'd like to give us a bit of an overview of the item. Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, thanks. Yeah, so this is a Register of Pre-qualified Supplies for Parks and Landscaping Services. We've got a current or similar arrangement at the moment, which is due to expire at the end of November. So this is just getting it in place for a new panel, because we're at the end of the tender, the actual period. There were no more further extensions on that. So this is the new one, and we went out to market in the last few months, and we put it out to a tender. And the advice from procurement was to do a Register of Pre-qualified Supplies and slightly change it from the old one. The old one had suppliers on it as well. Well, as service providers, so it had the likes of plant nurseries and suppliers of materials.

00:01:00 Their advice was that we didn't need to do that this time around, because we can just get priceless from those suppliers and use them. So we've done this. We had 17 responses to the tender. One of those didn't comply with the, or didn't provide sufficient information. And all of the other 16 were, have been added to the list, and hopefully, yeah, can be put on the new Register of Pre-qualified Supplies. Councillor Jurisevic: What you said there raises a question for me, with regard to the number of these that are interstate suppliers. We wouldn't expect services, playgrounds, in one instance, to be coming from interstate for local landscaping. And parks and gardens type work. Why, if they were suppliers, I could understand it, but if they're service providers, I'm a little, I'm going a bit ahead of it.

00:02:00 Why, the ones that are interstate, are they all have a local presence, or? Speaker 2: They certainly do, yeah. So there are some companies that are sort of, I suppose, nationwide, and they have a presence in each state. And then they, they, how they work is that they, when they get onto these panels, they, they basically, as soon as they start to get business, they then set up a base, and they'll, they make a commitment as part of the tender to do that, yes. Councillor Jurisevic: So whilst they are from other areas outside of the Sunshine Coast, as far as their main state operators are, they do provide a local presence and employ local people in the local area? Speaker 2: Yes, yes they do. And look, we, we always like to use local people where possible, so some, some of the companies that are on this list are definitely local, they are based here, they are, they owned and operated from the Noosa Shire, employ staff from the Noosa Shire area. Councillor Jurisevic: And then what about using them for?

00:03:00 Speaker 2: Yes, and we, we, we would obviously use them more, more frequently because they are, they are available, they are readily available, they can respond quickly to any jobs that we need them for. Mm-hm. However, some, some other companies have a, a different range of services, I guess, and we sometimes need a source a little bit more widely for those. Councillor Jurisevic: Okay, we have a question to go to. Councillor Lorentson: Page six, Matt. Yes. So historical expenditure for parks and landscaping services, it just seems like quite a bit of variation. 2021, we invoiced $722,000 worth of services, and year to date, $496,000. Can you explain why such variations? Speaker 2: Page six. Yeah. Councillor Lorentson: So it's more 2021 stands out. Oh, sorry. Speaker 2: Yes, I see it there. Councillor Lorentson: I'm sort of factoring in, you know, Noosa Parade, perhaps, or the Shrubs, Cooroy Playground.

00:04:00 Speaker 2: That's exactly, that's exactly what it is. So for example, the, the Cooroy Playground. Councillor Lorentson: Yeah. Speaker 2: They used in the, in the. In the current panel. That's what I'm thinking, yeah. They used one of the, a nursery that supplied all the stock for the, the Cooroy Playground, and that was obviously to a, a fairly significant amount of money. And same with, I believe, the Noosa Parade project. They used one of the companies on the panel. Yeah. And sourced all that stock. So it's obviously added up, and then that's where you get the variation between years. Councillor Jurisevic: So this isn't just for maintenance purposes, and again, this is also for supply for capital works projects. Speaker 2: Yeah, look, any of these panels, any of these panels can be used by anyone on the council once they're in place. So, I mean, they're predominantly going to be used by, by my team, Parks and Gardens, for, for maintenance services, but where necessary, other areas of council can, can obviously utilise it for their own projects to engage. Councillor Jurisevic: Well again, I go back to, I go back to the question I first raised, is that when I see

00:05:00 those values, I would have thought them, in regard to services, also supplying plants and equipment. As service providers, are they supplying plants and equipment as well? Play, playground equipment, or trees and lawn? Speaker 2: The playground, playground companies that provide specialist playground equipment aren't included on the specialist playground equipment. They're not included in this panel. They're actually on a, a specialised supplier list that council has, I believe. Councillor Jurisevic: I understood, we just had a playground maintenance company here. Speaker 2: There's one, there's, there's one that's tendered on this, that, that responded to this tender that we, we haven't used or before, and don't have any prior history with. But we figured, we actually discussed this with procurement, and we figured there's no harm in putting them on this list in case we ever need, need them or want to trial their equipment. And that's how come that they're on here. Councillor Jurisevic: So that table on page six includes all parks and landscaping services, whether it be an

00:06:00 ongoing maintenance role, or any project that's required, or capital work that's required for landscaping or, landscaping or parks services. Speaker 2: Yes, correct. Thank you. Councillor Lorentson: I have some food for thought. Page four. Yes. And we're heading in this sustainability outcomes in procurement. There's a note that council reminded suppliers of council's environment and sustainability goal, goal of achieving is that zero net emissions by 2026. And I commend council. You know, I think it's important if we're serious about reducing emissions by 2026. That we do so through supply chains. And this is a good opportunity for us. Food for thought. Can we try to remind suppliers or try in, as part of our procurement purposes, not

00:07:00 only to try to achieve sustainable outcomes, but also social outcomes, opportunities for our First Nations, people with disability, and women. So a reminder for the supply chain. It's important to deliver social or sustainable outcomes. So I know that we've got a local component. But it would be great if maybe we give some more thought to other social outcomes that we as a community would like to see achieved. And that means opportunities, again, for our First Nations. Speaker 3: Yes. Through the chair. That's part of the procurement strategy that's going forward. So that all gets encompassed in the plan. And that's part of the procurement strategy that we use to select the final tenders or the final suppliers when they come through. So that's all part of this mix. We've just identified that section in here for now.

00:08:00 But it's part of the bigger picture. Councillor Lorentson: Fantastic. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: So to follow on from that, Larry, when we have a register of pre-qualified suppliers, we would have a schedule of preferred suppliers in some sort of an order to use that may now be required. Yes. Speaker 3: I think that would be part of the process as we go forward before we select. We don't just sort of willy-nilly. We certainly still want to make sure that they meet our needs and our goals. Councillor Lorentson: Fantastic. Can I just make a note? Can we have a look at the procurement policy that covers all that criteria? Speaker 6: That's coming to the table, I believe. Councillor Lorentson: That is coming to the table. Excellent. Thank you. Speaker 6: In the new year, the sustainable procurement policy will come into consideration. Councillor Lorentson: Fantastic. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: I guess the question I was asking was a little outside of that. So all of these would meet the procurement criteria to be listed as a pre-qualified supplier.

00:09:00 And in our usage of them, will we then set up some sort of preferential system based on their meeting that criteria? Speaker 3: I think we've got a couple of questions here. I think we've got a couple of questions here. That's our ultimate goal, but we've got to get some of these things on the list. And then while the procurement strategy is being finalised and being adopted, that will then kick in and take more carrying. Councillor Finzel: Just a question through the Chair to the CEO. I recently attended the Social World Enterprise Forum. There's a peak body that has been established in Queensland, and they're looking at giving accreditation to businesses that establish the criteria of social enterprise. Is that something we can look at through our procurement process moving forward?

00:10:00 Speaker 5: Through the Chair, Councillor Finzel, thank you for your question. It will encompass within our social procurement policy. It's a space where now it's great to see some structure as to what not only social procurement can deliver for communities, but social enterprise overall, that are really starting to be able to look at how they manage their business and what they then are able to deliver for the community. I would note for Council, though, that we're unfortunately at this stage can't be all things to all people. If we close the net too tightly and we have... a large number of boxes to tick, we may start to very much limit ourselves in the amount of suppliers that are able to achieve that. And then we start to step out of what are procurement principles of getting value for money for the right payer, etc. It's very much part of our consideration, though. Once we have that policy in place, and our team are very dedicated to delivering this policy to the Council in the new year,

00:11:00 we have that opportunity to be able to look at all of the different categorisations, what's the most important for Noosa, what does that mean for our community with the right payer funds that we spend, and how do we get this great outcome where we have socially focused businesses providing supplies to our Council that we get to deliver on the ground through Matt's team here, and we have fantastic parks and gardens that have a purpose. So there's work to be done, but the team are committed in getting there. I'll just caution the Council as to we unfortunately always can't be all things to all people. We have to tighten that net every now and then. Thank you, Matt. Councillor Jurisevic: We'll move to Councillor Wilkie. Councillor Wollaston, is the discussion all in favour? Councillor Wilkie: Look, looking after the parks and gardens is a very important part. You do a great job. The community and visitors love using the parks and gardens.

00:12:00 So keep up the great work. Thank you. Thank you. Mayor Stewart: Matt, thank you. I'd just like to reiterate what Councillor Wilkie said, that you both do a terrific job. And looking at these supplies, and some of them are new, I guess do they have, you know, is there an understanding there that, you know, I've been at homes before where, you know, say the Council have gone above and beyond, say, you know, to help the resident or right payer with something, say an extra piece of grass being mown. Is there that sort of, do you feel that we have that group here who will sort of go above and beyond if needed? Speaker 2: Yes, I do. So the current panel which is in place, which was, as I said, is ending at the end of this month, was a little bit restricted. We didn't really get the number of tenders at the time. And we had, it was weighted too much. And there was a lot of suppliers that we didn't really, they provided a very particular type of product that we didn't really need. There weren't that many local actual landscape maintenance companies, the type of companies that can go out and do maintenance on the ground that we do need.

00:13:00 So I'm really happy with the selection that's here. There's, in terms of who I know and companies that I know of, I mean, having read some of the companies that attended in terms of their profile, I think that we've got a really diverse range and it will definitely help us with the scope of work that we're undertaking here. Councillor Jurisevic: Thanks. All right. All right. All in favour? Carried and down. So, thank you. Thanks, mate. Thank you. Moving on to item two. That's the holiday part. Please stand and show. Robin. Councillor Wilkie: Good afternoon. Councillor Jurisevic: Thank you. Certainly. Speaker 1: Good afternoon. The report in front of you today is seeking to adopt fees and charges for the Noosa Holiday Park Program for 2024, particularly the period from January to July 2024.

00:14:00 Our holiday parks program fee structure consists of nightly rates for powered and unpowered sites. We also have fees for additional people, the use of our laundry facilities and admin fees for cancellations or booking changes. In addition, we have a fee for electricity charges, a daily rate and a per kilowatt hour rate. These are placeholders for future applications when we move to any program where we charge for electricity usage. The forward pricing allows for bookings to be made by guests 12 months in advance. This is an industry-specific program. It is an industry standard and an important part of our revenue program. The increases for the period in 2024 represent an average annual increase of 4%, which equates to a dollar per night increase. This is considered a balanced approach. It's considerate of our future revenue stability and recognising that discretionary spending

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00:15:00 on recreation and travel over the next 12 to 24 months may tighten due to economic impacts. We also have an increase of $1,000 per night. But it also recognises that we have a cost base of the holiday parks program of approximately $2.9 million, which will be subject to inflationary pressures. And fees are our key revenue driver, and they do need to adjust over time to make sure that we don't degrade our profit margins. I hope that provides you with a summary of what's in front of you today. Councillor Jurisevic: Any questions, guys? I've got a couple. With regards to electricity charges going forward. So, the advice you're giving us today is whilst these appear on our fees and charges, we're not charging for electricity usage yet. The powerheads aren't operational or functional as yet? Speaker 1: The powerheads are operational in that they're being used, but the metering aspect that enables on charging is not yet a program in place. Councillor Jurisevic: How long have we had these powerheads in place and why aren't these charges being implemented as yet?

00:16:00 Speaker 1: COVID disrupted our program there a little. The powerheads were installed. The second stage to that project was installation of software that pulls in the data from the 100 or so powerheads distributed through the park. That was delayed up to 14 months because technicians had to travel from Victoria, and COVID restrictions were still in place through 2021 on travel. The software was installed earlier this year. At that point in time, we were just starting to stabilise post-COVID. Our operating system was installed earlier this year. Our operational program had stabilised. We headed into a period of electrical market volatility this year, and we also knew that we had a management contract change coming up. In light of those changes, we deemed it appropriate to get the new contract in place, and then moved to put the electricity on charging in place after that. Councillor Jurisevic: So, the powerheads are only out? And there's the river holding it back? We've had a change of energy?

00:17:00 Because the other side hasn't had a change of energy? Speaker 1: The powerheads that were put in have an additional capability in that they can meet a kilowatt hour usage. The powerheads in place at our other parks don't have that capability. They just provide electricity to our guests. Councillor Jurisevic: Okay. So, the ones that are using the water on that don't have that monitoring facility? No. Okay. Going forward, we've always had a disparity between powered and unpowered sites. If we are going to charge for electricity, are we going to charge for electricity? Do we have a consideration of a review of what a powered site charge should be in relation to an unpowered site when electricity is taken out of the separate charge? Speaker 6: Yes, Councillor. Obviously, coming into the next financial year's budget, in a period of stabilisation, we've gone through our contract renewal phase for most of those contracts, and now with those meter powerheads in, a period of operation, at least six months' worth, once the powerheads

00:18:00 are in, will give us an idea of what the stabilised level of consumption and revenue stream will be, and whether it does change behaviour in terms of consumption, particularly over, say, peak seasons at Moosa River, where you've got that holiday season over Christmas, greater air con use, et cetera, and some of the powered sites. So, hopefully, after a good six months of operation, we should have a good idea of what the revenue stream and what level of funding kicks we're looking at between a site fee and a powered fee, what the powerhead fee looks like. And I suppose, concurrently to those, the other piece of work we need to do about what our pricing looks like for emissions, cost implications as well, and how we introduce that through the power charge as well. So, that's probably a bit of a two-stage piece of work we need to do over the next 12 months once they're in. Councillor Jurisevic: So, the other element in that view, Dominic, is we looked at the green power availability and or solar options that we can provide as .

00:19:00 Speaker 1: I might respond in two answers, if I could. The original mission of assessing whether an electricity on-charging program was viable was that because we measured that the guest usage of electricity was excessive, and the electricity consumption at this site was the second-highest after last year. So, that was the key mission. It was born out of a green program, really, to reduce our electricity consumption by way of putting a price on it, and try and drive a heavy change also. The secondary aspect and the parity between powered and unpowered, whilst I can appreciate that the electricity, a powered site does have an inbuilt electricity, and that's something

00:20:00 we can see within it. There's a few other factors. At Noosa River, our 121 sites, 21 of those are unpowered, and they're the ones that sit right on the foreshore. So, they're in a premium location. So, there's a couple of factors that drive why there's price differentials between powered and unpowered. It's not necessarily that they have unlimited access to power or water. Councillor Jurisevic: That goes to the price. That's the case. That's what I'm saying. There needs to be a business case. It's a body of workers that, okay, yes, they're there. They've got a prime site. So, there's a reason to justify a higher charge or a lower disparity between the two. And I get that. But the reason I was asked the question I asked, which I don't think you answered, was with regard to how much green energy are we looking at facilitating through either solar power or other means, with the cost of electricity now being a subject matter for extreme high power prices in the future, what are we doing to try and help facilitate

00:21:00 that? Speaker 1: We have rooftop solar on both of our large amenity buildings. And we've, in that way, exhausted our opportunity to create renewable energy. Speaker 6: Through the Chair, just to support that as well. There's a concurrency there. We've got a current piece of work occurring in the organisation with our environmental sustainability team and procurement team, and working on a strategy to identify what is the optimal intervention for each of our sites long term, whether it's PPA, whether it's buying green power as opposed to non-green power. And that piece of work should come through to you through workshops and council meetings in the six months. Councillor Jurisevic: That's what I was saying. I mean, you know, we've got a nominal electricity charge here. We've got a solar input. We've got a green power input. I mean, what is the right rate? And, you know, whilst we might have a $1.20 daily access charge and a 45 cent kilowatt

00:22:00 per kilowatt hour, I'm assuming that's subject to the rate that we pay for electricity. Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a number of factors there. It's run by the Australian Energy Regulator, or the AER. There's rules around how you on-sell electricity. Whether you're exempt as a retailer or whether you're not. Currently, the caravan park has an exemption in place where we don't need to be established as a retailer. But there are rules which govern the ceiling price of what we can charge. Councillor Jurisevic: And again, the rate that we're paying, how on-selling it as to, you know, what savings are we making on the rate that we're paying with solar power on the routes. I mean, is all that factored into the cost that we consider per kilowatt hour? Yes. Speaker 1: The modelling that was done considered all of those aspects. Okay. Mayor Stewart: Well, I just want to take a different turn and congratulate you, Robin. I know that some of our holiday parks were up for some Queensland tourism awards over

00:23:00 the weekend. So, I want to congratulate you on all your hard work in being a finalist for the very prestigious awards held on the Gold Coast. So, well done to you and all the team. Speaker 1: I will say it's a collective effort. Well done. Please pass on that. Congratulations to all the team. I will. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: And a bit of recent promotion on the television as well? Speaker 1: Yes. We were featured on Creek to Coast. It's all good for building our profile. Councillor Jurisevic: Any further questions? Can I move on? Councillor Stewart? Councillor Squirt? Do you second? All in favour? Yes. Thank you. Councillor Wilkie: Thank you, Robin. Councillor Lorentson: I heard you're up for a Santa this year, who's going to be jumping them? You've already got an excellent Santa at the Aquatic Centre. We do, Pete's a little bit young. Speaker 4: That's right, he's our walking Santa. Councillor Jurisevic: I'm sure this was an opportunity to take over the role, mate.

00:24:00 Brett, do you want to... Speaker 8: All right, afternoon, thanks for having us. Councillor Jurisevic: Do you want to give us a little bit of an overview of... Speaker 8: Yeah, certainly will. Obviously, we'll present the report for the NAC for the last financial year. Look, yeah, in line with obviously the other facilities, had a really solid result. Strong overall budget performance, which has been great. Revenue's up 157k. Expenditures under. By about 44, so 201k under in the net budgeted position, which a real credit to James and the crew. Attendance numbers are really solid this year. Obviously, we've had some impacts through COVID and obviously the switchboard replacement was a major project that was undertaken, but the numbers are pretty solid, down by half a percent. Staffing's been very consistent, given some of the challenges. Obviously, you know, casual staff at the minutes, and it's really difficult to obviously get access to at times,

00:25:00 and obviously COVID again, having some interruptions and displacements there. Capital Works, on that note, the light pole footings were one of the key projects that's been completed, and obviously we've been able to then also follow through and put the new LED lights up, which has been great. The other one, obviously, the construction of the shade sale, which is going over the... the 25 metre. The footings are in for that, which is great. And then the sales, obviously, in manufacturing stage now, will come in, I think, in January. So we should get the back half of the summer with that in place as well. Councillor Jurisevic: Switchboard upgrade as well? Speaker 8: Yeah, that was completed. That was completed, yeah, last year, yeah. Other than that, yeah, the only other one, obviously, we're putting up a Capital Works for a master painting process. So that will be a key project that Stephen and I will be trying to put through next year.

00:26:00 Mayor Stewart: Brad, has the filth been compliant? The Olympic size? Speaker 4: Yeah. Mayor Stewart: Yes, it is. Speaker 4: It's been surveyed numerous times. Yeah. And the line markings and whatnot are compliant. We've got an issue with the bulkheads, which is a movable end wall. It's just been out to procurement and the tenders close. It's been being assessed, and that'll get blocks. The original blocks are still there from 1999. Of course, blocks now are non-slip, and they all have kickers. So at the moment, we're not compliant in that area. Okay. The length of the pool is, and we've actually appointed someone yesterday for the replacement of that end wall and blocks. So that will allow us. That's April, I think? Yeah, we're trying to fit in with the operations plan for Easter next year. Councillor Jurisevic: Terrific. Yeah. As far as the last thing goes, when we talked about other revenues,

00:27:00 things and other options there, is that this is where we'll try and submit in those options? Speaker 8: Yeah, we need to do an options analysis and certainly go through that process and start to get a bit of a plan and a vision for the site. Councillor Jurisevic: Steve's had some great vision for the future of that. Councillor Lorentson: And we are in discussions. About the master plan, Stephen, so. Speaker 4: There's a number of options there. And what's the best bang for a buck? Absolutely. I think I know with being on site for a long period of time now that I know a multi-purpose type room where we can do group fitness and make it a one-stop fitness centre that allows clubs on site and off site to use it would be a great asset. And it's the master planning process. I guess that's my vision. And council doesn't work on people's vision. It sort of has to go through this process to talk to the clubs and the community and see what they want. Mayor Stewart: Start with a vision.

00:28:00 That's the most important thing. Speaker 4: Yeah. I know with the zero depth, there's three projects for one and a half million in the next two years in Capital Works. And those zero depth is, it's nice to have, but it's not in my vision. It's something that the Aquatic Centre needs. We've got a great splash park just down the road here at Tewantin. And that we're not in that recreation type market and it's something that a multi-purpose room would be a great asset for the whole community rather than. Councillor Lorentson: And I know some board riders that would really appreciate a roof, yeah. Speaker 4: Yeah. A family change space is something that we need to address. We've had a couple of issues with people of the non-binary and LGBTQI coming in and deciding which change room they use. So if we can get a sort of multi-purpose. Like parks used to have male and female, whereas now they're more just a set of spaces that you can use with your amenities, wash basins and whatnot outside. So we need to go there because our community is going that way.

00:29:00 And we're probably lagging behind. So change rooms in a multi-purpose room. Yeah. I think it would be great. Speaker 8: Yeah. Master plan is. Yeah. And the vision for the future. We've got, you know, when we get our overarching position on the Olympics and just the, you know, the need, obviously we'll do the community strategy too and get some understanding of what infrastructure is required through that as well. So and then just feed into trying to find the best outcome for the site. Councillor Jurisevic: Yeah. And that's an element of the site because we're in a site. We've got the rugby club, we've got the bicycle halls, we've got the schools and there's. Speaker 4: Tennis clubs, it's almost a precinct now. It's a precinct. Councillor Lorentson: It's a precinct. And the skate, and the skate park. Yeah. Let's not forget the skate park. How can we, how can we forget the skate park? Councillor Jurisevic: We never, we never live without. But it is a precinct now. It's not just an isolation.

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00:30:00 I wonder if there was an opportunity there to not only look within but to look without and. And look at the needs of the whole as well as the park. Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's certainly something as we get, as we go through the process and we scope that out, you know, we certainly can consult internally and try and find, make sure we get the best, best outcome for sure. Councillor Jurisevic: The other thing to look at of course is our sport and rec plant and see what's missing. Yeah. It's coming. Speaker 8: It's up for review. Councillor Jurisevic: It's up for review. It's part of the use of what we have delivered, what we haven't delivered on and what needs are still required so that we can going forward when we do go into master planning exercises, look at whether there's opportunity for those, those, to facilitate those needs within the area as well. Speaker 4: Absolutely. And it's still a huge need for dormitory style accommodation I think around the Shire and that's, we looked at that, I know the rugby club looked at that, just teams, could be like food and wine fest and you've got 20 chefs that you need to house short term with just a simple accommodation and I think that's far beyond the sporting groups and clubs that are in that precinct that something like that for Noosa would be fantastic.

00:31:00 Fantastic. We've also floated the idea of having a central type club. There that the rugby club and the tennis club and you've got the athletics and the soccer club, is there a common area that we could have a club type that caters for everyone, that everyone can call home and. Councillor Jurisevic: A sports club? Speaker 4: Yeah, almost like a surf club concept but somewhere. Councillor Lorentson: Or just even like I'm thinking intergenerational or an aged, I'm thinking Brian O'Connor sent me some links where it's just intergenerational centre. So for young and old. Speaker 4: And that's what clubs are I guess. Councillor Lorentson: Absolutely. The perfect example. Speaker 4: Absolutely. Young through the old and it could be something surf club type concept. Councillor Jurisevic: Yeah. In some ways it could be a little more rather than the limited scope that small range is

00:32:00 different. Yep. Only more grandstand like that. Mayor Stewart: Yep. Just a quick question to the CEO. On all our, the NAC is one of our best facilities, it's amazing. We use it as a family all the time. I know. And I know some of you families in the community do and as you said it's intergenerational, old, young, you know you've got the babies there right through to people older swimming. Is there an opportunity to do because not just the NAC but other facilities, the J, the leisure centre to do I guess and brings in what you're talking about and having that one shop precinct and do we rent it out? Do we have space that we can actually commercially use? Do we can do a deep dive business analysis into potentially all of our assets like this because they all lose money and they all provide a service for the community which is first and foremost and that's the number one is the providing the service. But if there's an opportunity there to look at cost saving or cost cutting or revenue generating on top of that or as an addition to that service they provide to the community.

00:33:00 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. Through the Chair, Mayor, a lot of councils have done this really well. We have a geographically dispersed local government area so it can be somewhat difficult to do the one stop shops but it is absolutely worthwhile looking at and we are also looking through our strategic property and land review so that's a key piece of work that we'll be delivering. Deferred to the team over time as to whether we include that in there but it makes sense, economies of scale make sense. Yeah. Yeah. We have a number of precincts that deliver different outcomes, we group them together. But yeah we wouldn't be on our own in local government and looking at how we can consolidate, get Better Bang for Our Bark and yes the general rates subsidise but yeah there's great opportunities there. All of the capital city councils not just the central CBDs but all of the surrounding councils they do this really well. ACT government do a great job as well.

00:34:00 Councillor Jurisevic: I believe we've had a lot of work in the pipeline for some time to actually look at the opportunity and an officer that was intended to be employed to Speaker 5: I couldn't comment on how that's progressing and it would be remiss of me not to say that we've also got a specialist on our team and Larry and this as well too, sorry Larry I just love throwing your name around when I need to, but yeah we've got somebody who's been there done that, knows sporting facilities, knows how they work so we've got some great options here and there so how do we program it with all the work that we currently have on our plate, that's just what we need to do. Speaker 8: And obviously we've got, it's exciting because we're doing regen feasibility and now we're doing the needs assessment and we'll get some options out of that with the leisure centre and then the master plan for the NAC so we'll all hopefully tie in and we don't want to duplicate stuff so out of all that we'll get some suggestions and some options of where do we maybe commercialise stuff and things of that nature.

00:35:00 Yeah, there's opportunities. First and foremost there's the service. Mayor Stewart: There is also opportunity to have. Speaker 8: Yeah, and it's just, you know, obviously it's location, you know, where, where, where, and then it comes down to prioritisation and what we want to do so. Councillor Jurisevic: The value is always, you know, something we should be looking at very, very, very closely. I know, I know that the discussion behind the therapy pool was raised in 10 days somewhere. Is that something that we need to talk to the public health team about? Whether that can be simplified? Whether they're, you know, where that could, you know, where that could possibly go if there was another one to be located in the region?

00:36:00 Is that something that could go on a community facility? I don't know. Those sort of discussions. That's the sort of synergies that maybe other entities, maybe, you know, could bring as well. Speaker 4: Yeah, it's probably finding that balance between a hydrotherapy pool that costs a lot to build and maintain and returns very little revenue, whereas for a decade we had an osteopath on site and a masseuse that provided. Councillor Lorentson: Skye McLeish, I remember Skye, she's done so much. Speaker 4: It's fantastic, provided $15,000, $20,000 of passive revenue, that it was there, that was value add-on to the centre. So I think for the, we always floated the idea of where we're talking about that multi-purpose room, having some business suites there and you could have a dive school and a nutritionist, allied health, that type of thing that would complement the centre and also provide revenue where you could get to that break-even point fairly easily. Councillor Lorentson: So much untapped opportunities in that centre. Speaker 8: Yeah, I think all of our, all of our feasibilities and whatnot that we go, the path we go down have to have that commercial thoughts.

00:37:00 Councillor Jurisevic: I guess that, I guess that's an element of challenge too, being on state land, commercial operations. Speaker 8: Yeah, it is. Obviously Regents, there's, yeah, we're going through that as well, Regents, you know, just. Councillor Lorentson: I was about to say, I think the best source of knowledge are what I call our local experts, like Jamesy, like Sally, like JR, like Belinda Granger, who I notice is on board, you guys live and breathe the knack. And, and. You are my experts in all things knack, just want to reach out and on that note, I actually want to talk about squad revenue and I want to make a bit of noise about this, because it was probably one of the biggest threats, I think, to the success of the squad and also numbers of the aquatic centre when St Andrews opened their school. And I note in the report that the salaries offered by St Andrews, let me fall over, I think I probably got for the first two years of this,

00:38:00 that $100,000, and you can't compete with that, but you can because you've still got JR, Sally, Belinda, you've got community legends running your squad, so. Speaker 4: We'll always be a community pool, I think that's what we're there for. Councillor Lorentson: And that is what you are. Speaker 4: If a high performance program comes out of it, that's a bonus, but it's not really what we're about. Councillor Lorentson: It's not. Speaker 4: Gets you the accolades, we want to serve the community, and I think we don't have six figures to throw around for a coach. You know, our current grading will be about $49,000, which is not a lot of money to be a full-time coach, so it's trying to find people like JR who virtually do it for free, you know, and it just takes a bit of money. Mayor Stewart: The last year you were coach of the year to Queensland, is that right? Speaker 4: Nation, we're for Australia. Australia. We've always been to the last, had swimmers at the last three Olympics, we've had medalists at the last three Olympics out of that pool, so it's great, but again, that's the bonus, and that's, we are here for the community, you've got to keep pulling people back down, hang on.

00:39:00 Councillor Lorentson: And the numbers reflect that, I think the numbers speak volumes, that those numbers shouldn't be the case when you think, you know, 20 minutes down the road, there's this brand new spanking, sparkling facility. Speaker 4: Probably the benefit of council operating the facility, if it was leased out, it was my business, I'd probably look at it in a different perspective, and you're a lot more bottom line focused than that social outcome. Councillor Wilkie: You couldn't offer the same level of service. Speaker 4: You wouldn't have the fees that you have, and you'd look at a program that's just viable, and you'd probably say, let's get that out of the way, and something else that'll make us some money, so whilst council's operating, I think you get a good community outcome. Speaker 8: And James, he's working hard in that space to try and find, you know, another option around JR. Speaker 4: I mean, today, it's just very positive, but we just don't have the money, and it's pretty tough to attract someone that's not in the region, as you know, with housing affordability, to say we've got 50 grand a year to pay you to be at the pool at 4.30 in the morning, and do a split shift and come back, and you'll be there at 6.30 at night.

00:40:00 Councillor Lorentson: James, how about Wes Burke? Would he put his hand up for something like this? Speaker 4: He's got enough on at the surf club, I think, but again, surf club's got bigger budgets than council and different work agreements. It's pretty tough. And look, I don't want to go on too long, but we are a surf and open water focused community. Most of your still water coaches want to go to the Olympics, and they're used to being at, you know, Gels Grammar or St. Peter's or somewhere, and they're all, whereas we're an open water program, 70 or 80% of our patrons want to be, they don't want to go to the Olympics, they want to be in the next Shanteneck's Dine, or they want surf and water polo and triathlon, and that's a different beast to your still water swimming that's big in the metropolitan areas, so it's just trying to find that balance, get a good coach, but have that surf focus. Councillor Lorentson: Max Pettigrove, he's still there, isn't he? Max, he's still there? Oh my gosh, he's part of the NAC. He is, he is. He's an institution. Speaker 4: He is, he is, he is.

00:41:00 And look, that's probably the community that we've got, and we don't have a big turnover of those key people, because most of the people love the place and are still proud of it, you know, after a couple of decades of working there. Councillor Jurisevic: And one time, my council went, you and your staff went away to live in the road service area. Oh, we don't always get it right, Joe. But you're always striving to achieve the best and the best in our community, so thank you, thank you for the work that you and your staff are doing. That's seriously, thank you, that's terrific. Any further councillors? Councillor Wilkie: Yeah, under future direction, I'm hoping you can clarify one of the statements that says with the addition of potential family change facilities and zero depth water place space scheduled in upcoming capital works planning process, there are opportunities for council to determine the best offering for the community. So my questions are, which of those works, the family change facilities and zero depth water play, have been scheduled, and which ones are funded?

00:42:00 Speaker 4: Both are scheduled in the next two years for half a million dollars each. The zero, the family change, absolutely. Councillor Wilkie: So this will be a budget ask? This coming to us, or you've received the money to do this work? Speaker 4: It's in the capital works program, so it would have to go through the node for 23, 24. Councillor Wilkie: Okay, so it'll come to us for approval in the next budget. Both of those facilities? Speaker 4: Both of those, the family change and the zero depth. I guess what I'm saying there is the zero depth possibly could be better spent elsewhere. Mayor Stewart: Tewantin has one. Speaker 4: Yep, yep. Councillor Wilkie: So there's more work to be done around the zero depth as an ask in the budget? Speaker 8: Yeah, and I guess where that comes in. Yeah, and in the master planning, I think that's where we need to really get in and get a master plan done here sooner rather than later. And so we can get sort of, you know, take a step back and just really start to think about those two projects and how it fits into the biggest scheme of the master planning for the site.

00:43:00 So we want to get it right, and we want to make sure that we're, you know, is that exactly the right thing to do now? It might have been, you know, two years ago when it was suggested and put in, but we need to really think clearly about, yeah, what's the plan for the site? Obviously get that endorsed, and then it gives us some direction for the next 10 years to sort of start to, you know. Councillor Wilkie: Yeah, I can understand, I can sort of guess what a zero depth play facility might be, but could you tell us what you're envisioning? Speaker 8: I might refer to James, his background. Speaker 4: I guess zero depth, we have just down here, we used to do the old splash pool there. We fought long and hard in many meetings with the community, and Lou Brennan, who was the councillor at the time, about the need that aquatics has changed and that that little 300 mil deep pool was a waste of time. That zero depth's a much better outcome for the community, so once getting Lou on board, we pushed hard to get that. That's still a great outcome, but do we need that type of facility at the NAC, I think. Where would you put it? Possibly where the wading pool is, if you look at the cafe.

00:44:00 Without building any more water space, I don't think the NAC needs more water space. Councillor Wilkie: So we would replace something that's already there? Speaker 4: Yeah, where the bucket's tipped down and we run our learn to swim program, you've got this bubble pool, there's that wading pool, we call it. You could fill that in and it would basically be a series of jets and whatnot, so it would be, it's not a... Councillor Wilkie: And the extra change facilities, grab, sweep, where would you put them? Speaker 4: We've looked at expanding just along the building line past Crache, which was the old club room, just right along that side, and whether it's allied health, it's a great set up, you've got access to the car park for multi-purpose rooms or for other businesses that are there, could be some sort of club room up above that, it just depends. Speaker 8: I think that whole arm down there is sort of where you would, you know... Speaker 4: But making the place look like it's loved. Speaker 8: Yeah, two stories, yeah, something in that nature, yeah, for sure, for sure. Councillor Wilkie: And how's the car park holding up? Have you had any requests for sealing of the car park?

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00:45:00 Speaker 4: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Councillor Wilkie: Is that on your horizon at all? Speaker 4: I just think a million dollars is, yeah, better spent elsewhere than, none of this, it's just not a high priority. Councillor Wilkie: And what about the gym? Happy to keep that the way it's been going? Speaker 4: Yeah, we looked at the gym when we bought the new equipment probably five years ago, whether we need to be in that space, we originally had the gym when there was only Frank's and I think one other gym in town, and there's a bunch of gyms, so when we needed to replace that equipment, we looked at it, do we need to be in that space, because there's plenty of gyms out there now, and once we did the business analysis, we came up with a point of difference that probably the 18 to 40 year olds that Snap and Jets and Frank's and whatnot attract, probably not the market that we want, let's go for a real community-based gym where people feel comfortable coming back from extended periods of no exercise. Crèche is a godsend. We had the fight to keep the crèche about six years ago, and it was undercut crèche.

00:46:00 Speaker 8: They want all, I think they've got that total wellness, it's a bit like what we're talking about over region, they've got that total wellness spot where they can get all there. Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why a multi-purpose room that we could use for the yoga or spin or group fitness type classes during the day, and then clubs can use at night for meetings and AGMs and whatnot is a great outcome. Councillor Wilkie: So one final question, are you wanting to do the master planning process before you ask in the budget for more change facilities in the zero debt? Speaker 8: I'd get on with it. Ideally, yes, we will certainly put it up, and yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: So family change facilities being on agenda at the same time? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's an early short-coming. Yep. It could be probably the 21st century. Speaker 4: Absolutely. It's changed a lot since then, I know. Councillor Lorentson: And the census data, 2021, that will also help, I'm guessing, with all your analysis and needs. Lots of babies, I'm noticing, everywhere. So there will be an emerging need.

00:47:00 Speaker 4: I'm sorry, yeah. Yeah, young families coming into that. Eastern Beaches, where it used to be more retirees, young families couldn't afford to get in there. Now there's four classes at prep at Sunshine Beach Primary three years ago. There was five last year, and they're looking at six next year, and that'll flow on for the next decade or two. Where we put everyone in park, everyone's a big challenge, I'm sure. But no, it's great. Councillor Jurisevic: Any further? No, I'm happy to move it. I'll second it. All in favour? Yeah? That is a great one. Thanks for having us. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, thank you. Councillor Lorentson: Thanks, guys. Thank you. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Item four, Capital Programme Delivery Status for the 3rd of September. Craig. Speaker 7: But this is actually looking back at September, it's retrospective, so through the chair I'll just give a brief update, so as I mentioned earlier it's looking back for the quarter up to the 30th of September,

00:48:00 at that point in time the budget was $57.1 million including $11 million in carryovers, $50,000.7 million was sitting with Larry and myself and there was $6.4 million sitting with others including Community Projects, ICT and Fleet. As of the 30th of September we were 22% through which is approximately $12.5 million with $20 million sitting in commitments. And a lot of those commitments are multi-year projects. It's important that once those multi-year projects taper off, they were underway last year, that we're in that planning phase now and procurement phase, so that's what we're actively doing. We're facing ongoing labour, equipment, materials, hot construction industry and the challenges seem to be continuing.

00:49:00 The resale program is going well. They've expended $885,000 out of $5.5 million. We have a $107 million budget and Council has approximately $17 million this year in grant funding and contributing an additional $17 million and there's $21 million made up of non-capital. So we saw that last year and it's continued into this year. The design services team are currently working on 14 projects with a design value of approximately just under $1 million and a construction value of approximately $21 million. We've got our new infrastructure planning coordinator. We've got our new infrastructure planning coordinator. And he's working on a planning project at the moment with an approximate value of $250,000 and an approximate investment value of $15 million. And there's 36 multi-year projects in various stages of completion underway. Councillor Jurisevic: Any questions?

00:50:00 Mayor Stewart: How are you? Speaker 7: Thank you, Claire. Mayor Stewart: How are the team? Thank you, Mayor. Speaker 7: Thank you for asking. No, I'm well. And the team? Mayor Stewart: I mean, 36 projects on the go is huge. Speaker 7: We probably started the year well. We were set up well last year. And we had some large projects underway, i.e. Becman's Road and several bridges. And they're starting to taper off now. And now we have to get that next trench of work out to the market. And that's the phase we're in. Speaker 3: In terms of expenditure, there will be a dip because we've got to get through a planning phase. Those big ones are in play. So now's the time to really hit the accelerator again. Mayor Stewart: Yeah. And coming into Christmas, too, that's not easy. Speaker 7: Yeah. And market-wise, we're not getting a lot of responses for tenders. So that's a challenge going forward is attracting our own competitive pricing. And that's being experienced throughout all things in all local governments.

00:51:00 Councillor Lorentson: Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah. Just, it's really good to have the summary on page 21 and 22. And identifying the areas where the projects, areas within the Shire, from gravel re-sheeting projects, to pathway programs, to bus stop disability program, compliance program, emergent works. And what stood out to me is that there's actually quite equitable distribution between the Hinterland and Coventry areas. So, as a council, I know that as a council, we still get asked or told that we're not doing enough in the Hinterland. I think, just this summary is testament that we are, in fact, doing quite a bit in the Hinterland. And I think we need to tell that story a little bit more. Mm-hmm. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: I think the elements of that is that it's quite dispersed and it's quite...

00:52:00 Speaker 8: All over the place. Councillor Jurisevic: ...the areas that feel far between, the areas that feel far between. Projects and major projects like bridges and that are being undertaken there and they take significant amount of capital to deliver. Speaker 7: And the bridges have definitely demonstrated that. Yeah. And they continue to demonstrate that. Councillor Jurisevic: As far as bridges that we've still got to go, Craig, are there many major undertakings regarding bridge renewals or replacements due in the upcoming... Yeah. Speaker 7: So, we're finishing up Croy Valley. We've got Lawnville in the process. We've got Doonella over here in the process. And we've got Garth Proud. And then we'd be looking with a circle after that. Councillor Wilkie: Just to clarify, the works on Doonella, Craig, when will they start? Mm-hmm. And you mentioned they'd be night works. So, does that mean traffic will be able to transverse the bridge during the day? Speaker 7: Yes. So, we're getting that package ready to go out in the early new year. And it'll be a design and construct package.

00:53:00 So, we'll have to see what the contractor comes back with. But as part of that tender package, we'll be looking to at least maintain one lane at all times. So, there may be traffic lights set up. And there may be delays experienced. But we're endeavouring to maintain one lane. But that does depend on what the contractor comes back with. The reference to night works will be, ideally, we'd be doing the pavement at night. So, any approaches and the actual sealing of the deck. We try and time that at night time. Councillor Wilkie: Is there anything else that has to happen on Noosa Parade before that job is signed up on? Speaker 7: Noosa Parade? Yeah. Very minor works at the moment. So, we're doing walk throughs and just, it's like a punch hole checklist. Councillor Wilkie: Yes. Speaker 7: Where you're just going through and doing minor defects. Councillor Wilkie: Yeah. I haven't had a good look. But how are all the trees holding up? Yeah, good. I mean, we've been very fortunate with the rain. Speaker 7: Yes.

00:54:00 Yeah. So, you know, hopefully we'll get a bit more rain. Councillor Lorentson: Can I notice, there's a whole section where, on the westerly side of Noosa Parade, towards Garth Proud Bridge, and those plants look burnt. They're really not faring well. It's very, very obvious. Yeah. And we've got a defects liability period up to 12 months. Fantastic. Yeah. So, that'll pick all that up. Excellent. Yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: Any trees that don't survive a root or pot? No. No. Councillor Wilkie: But they were quite a size when they went in, so that's impressive. Speaker 7: Yeah. And that was mentioned in the earlier Matt Hanson's report, where we did procure those trees early, because we wanted to really create that avenue. Councillor Jurisevic: Is there a further question? I'm going to move it. Second. Sorry. I've got a couple of questions out here. Tom. Tom. Oh, Joe. Councillor Finzel: Thank you. I've just got a question on page 27 of 35.

00:55:00 We've got the photographs of the new expansion cell stage one and two. Just a bit of a feedback, where we're up to with that, and where are we tracking with completion to the site's master plan and configuration review around the multi-project budget for the waste management? Speaker 7: I'm going to have to take that on. I don't know if anyone noticed, Larry. Did you want to speak to that? Speaker 3: Yeah. Sorry. The master plan is done by the waste department, so I don't have direct visibility at this point in time. Sorry. Oh, OK. Councillor Finzel: And are we tracking then with regards to the construction of that? Speaker 7: I can answer that. Yes. We're working within scope, and we're working within budget. So we're delivering a project within the budget we have, and we're trying to achieve as much scope within that budget as possible. Speaker 3: So my understanding, in terms of the new cell, that's all I'm tracking.

00:56:00 That's all I want. And I think it's completed. Councillor Jurisevic: My understanding works for this one? Speaker 3: Yeah. The new cell, yes. It's the remediation stuff. Yeah. But we're working with sort of a restricted budget, if you like, at this point in time, because it's just so much more expensive to do. Councillor Wilkie: Just a final question. How long before the bus shelter replacement program is completed? Because it's been going for quite a while. You're doing a lot of work in that space. There always seems to be another tranche of work coming out. I'm just wondering when will you ever rest in that regard? Speaker 7: Yes. So what we elected to do was halve the program and spread it over two years. So we're doing half the program this year and half the program next year. So in theory, next year, the bus stops should be upgraded. And then there is a bus shelter upgrade program where there's opportunities to install shelters. So that might be an ongoing program after that.

00:57:00 Did I explain that okay? Councillor Wilkie: Well, if I remember rightly, this program started back in 2016. 15, 16. Yeah. 15, 16. This is the same program. Yeah. You're saying there's only two years to go. Speaker 7: We're in the second final year. Yeah. So 22, 23. And then 23, 24 should be completed. Yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: How many shelters in total? Speaker 7: Stops. My understanding is around 206 stops. Councillor Wilkie: Yeah. Yes. And quite a number of them are in the hinterland as well, aren't they? Yeah. Yes. Yep. Yeah. I'll see. I'm very interested in the numbers. Okay. Yep. Where they're positioned. We can definitely help you out with that. Yeah. Councillor Jurisevic: I think I'm planning for the last one to be done. There's still one I see here. Yeah. Councillor Wilkie: You're doing great work. Thank you. Councillor Jurisevic: We can ask questions any time.

00:58:00 Speaker 7: You can ask questions any time. Ask away. No, no, I'll ask afterwards. Okay. Kind of a smaller question. Okay. Councillor Jurisevic: Sure. If you don't want to. So, all in favour? Mayor Stewart: No, I want to speak to it. Oh, you want to speak? Yeah, I just want to congratulate and thank Craig, Larry and all the team. You guys are doing an absolutely terrific job. And I was at the Tri all last weekend and everyone was saying how great this parade did and I know you're under heavy pressure to get that done. You did a stellar job. It got done for, you know, 11,000 participants, 30,000 spectators. It just looked a picture. And that's all to do with you and the team. So, I just want to, and looking at this, I read this at 4 a.m. this morning and, I mean, I was tired already. I needed to go into bed after reading this because you guys are doing so much work. So, I just want to really commend you because it's not easy. Circumstances are difficult and we appreciate and acknowledge all the hard work you're doing. And please thank the team for us. Speaker 7: Thank you. And I just want to acknowledge our receiving team as well and our operations guys on that project. Mayor Stewart: Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, please thank them a lot. It was very well received.

00:59:00 Councillor Jurisevic: Not only this, but Beckman's is coming on the field. There's been some questions about whether we can play with the pathway now being underweight by Christmas actually. Thank you for all the work that's gone through. Yeah, across the Shire. Councillor Wilkie: We all wouldn't have heard the end of it if it wasn't done. Speaker 3: It's just, on that point, it's incredible with Beckman's. It's incredible the amount of stories that get out there. Rumours, you know, that, because we have to go back and redo some work or, you know, because when you open some parts, you then go back and reseal sections. And the, you know, the stories that get out there about, we forgot to put pipes in, we forgot to do this. Councillor Jurisevic: What's the matter? Forget you put pipes in. You had a traffic flow wall. Speaker 3: All the same. All the same. All rubbish that we just have to deal with the way our guys have to deal with. Councillor Jurisevic: But you kept traffic flowing the whole time. And so while traffic is across the road, you can't dig that road up. That's right. You have to then divert the traffic, then get it back. Exactly. Speaker 3: So there's all that, but it's amazing the stories that come out of that. Councillor Lorentson: No worries. Councillor Jurisevic: We heard all two.

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01:00:00 Speaker 3: It's all very good project management. Mayor Stewart: It is. Councillor Lorentson: And you guys look tired and need a rest. I'm serious. I'm serious. Mayor Stewart: We need you guys. Councillor Lorentson: We need you guys fighting Fitch. You should see it. My Christmas list for you. Yeah, really? As long as it's in the new year. Speaker 3: That's it. That's okay. Councillor Jurisevic: Thanks Craig. Thank you. Councillor Lorentson: Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks Craig. That's it. Councillor Wilkie: Yeah. Thank you Mr Chair.

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